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Still waiting for the official hp/torque numbers, but this might just be my next engine when I purchase my 2011 SuperDuty. Guess...just need to stay tuned...like the rest of us.
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2012 FORD F250 SD CC 156" Lariat FX4 6.2L BOSS 4x4 4.30s
2003 F250 SD SC 142" XLT FX4 V10 Auto 4x4 3.73s -- Traded
1976 F150 LWB Custom 4x4 390FE NP435 3.50s
Still waiting for the official hp/torque numbers, but this might just be my next engine when I purchase my 2011 SuperDuty. Guess...just need to stay tuned...like the rest of us.
biz
I noticed Mike Rowe saying that too, somehow I really doubt the 6.2 has anything to do with the 5.4, other than they are both V8s made by Ford.
I noticed Mike Rowe saying that too, somehow I really doubt the 6.2 has anything to do with the 5.4, other than they are both V8s made by Ford.
And what makes you think that? The 5.4 is a stroked 4.6; 4.2 is a stroked 3.8...Ford has a history of improving on existing designs. Why couldn't they do the same here?
Because from what I understand, the first problem would be that you couldn't actually get pistons with that bore size put in to the 5.4 block. The bore spacing is smaller the pistons diameter on the 6.2. From what I understand, it's a whole new block, parts are not interchangeable.
If you see the bare block it is pretty much a scaled up modular engine. The bore spacing on the 4.6 and 5.4 is 3.937" or 100mm the bore spacing for the 6.2 comes in at 4.54". This allows for wider bearings both rod and crankshaft and a sizeable increase in bore diameter. A 7.5 engine has been developed from the 6.2 for Trophy truck racing which puts out a healthy 850 HP. This engine was originally layed out back in 1999 as far as the architecture as a replacement for the old 7.5 built in the Lima Ohio plant. It was orginally slated for the 2007 model year, but gas prices and the fragile state of the automakers has pushed this out to now. Some changes have been made and Ford has had time to "play around" with the engine to see what it can do.
IT is IMPRESSIVE and makes some serious power.
If you see the bare block it is pretty much a scaled up modular engine. The bore spacing on the 4.6 and 5.4 is 3.937" or 100mm the bore spacing for the 6.2 comes in at 4.54". This allows for wider bearings both rod and crankshaft and a sizeable increase in bore diameter. A 7.5 engine has been developed from the 6.2 for Trophy truck racing which puts out a healthy 850 HP. This engine was originally layed out back in 1999 as far as the architecture as a replacement for the old 7.5 built in the Lima Ohio plant. It was orginally slated for the 2007 model year, but gas prices and the fragile state of the automakers has pushed this out to now. Some changes have been made and Ford has had time to "play around" with the engine to see what it can do.
IT is IMPRESSIVE and makes some serious power.
GREAT post! Really appreciate your contribution. It certainly gives a person some added confidence what the 6.2L can do. PLUS the growth in hp/torque for future generations of this engine.
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2012 FORD F250 SD CC 156" Lariat FX4 6.2L BOSS 4x4 4.30s
2003 F250 SD SC 142" XLT FX4 V10 Auto 4x4 3.73s -- Traded
1976 F150 LWB Custom 4x4 390FE NP435 3.50s
Can't wait to see the motor in production, wish I could say the same for the trucks' revised exterior styling. Maybe it will grow on me. Maybe.
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If you see the bare block it is pretty much a scaled up modular engine.
So, could you call it a "big block"? Didn't the 385 V8 series start its life somewhere around the same capacity? Perhaps Ford is going back to similar mentality for this engine. If it does make a 460, I want it in the F150 :-). If I buy an F350, I think I want the diesel.
I too hope it finds it way into the f150!! That would be the truck I would buy next!
Well...I wouldn't hold my breath guys. Due to the two new engines for the F150 being the eco-boost V6 and the 5.0L. Those are the engines for the F150 coming...
The 6.2L BOSS only see's the Raptor. But who knows...it might make it's way if FORD and the economy make the turn upward we are all hoping for. Also if gas prices stay low...
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2012 FORD F250 SD CC 156" Lariat FX4 6.2L BOSS 4x4 4.30s
2003 F250 SD SC 142" XLT FX4 V10 Auto 4x4 3.73s -- Traded
1976 F150 LWB Custom 4x4 390FE NP435 3.50s
(Other than being standard in SuperDuty), I could see the engine lineup something like this:
XL standard 3.7 V6? (if this engine will be put in the F150 at all), optional 5.0 V8
STX standard 5.0 V8
XLT standard 5.0 V8, optional 6.2 and EB
FX standard 5.0, optional 6.2
Lariat standard 5.0, optional 6.2, EB
King Ranch standard 6.2
Harley Davidson 6.2
Platinum 6.2 optional EB.
I honestly have no idea, but this is how I would do it. I might even go as far as saying that the 6.2 V8 might go with the Max Towing Package - which ever trim level you buy.
However, according to FORD...the hp/torque figures are all going to be very similar at 400hp / 400 ft/lbs torque with the EB, 5.0L, and 6.2L (Raptor version) engines.
So...the need for the 6.2L is no longer needed in the F150 because both the EB and 5.0L fit nicely. The EB for better fuel mileage...and the 5.0L for a naturally aspirated gas engine. Both with plenty of power for a F150.
IMHO...the EB will be the option engine while the 5.0L will be standard.
Now…for the SuperDuty…the 6.2L will need more torque IMO. So…the 400 hp is fine, but if FORD delivers the 6.2L with less than 425 ft/lbs of torque (minimum)…that would be plain unjust!
Just tired of waiting for the official numbers on these engines. Come on FORD...help a loyalist out!
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2012 FORD F250 SD CC 156" Lariat FX4 6.2L BOSS 4x4 4.30s
2003 F250 SD SC 142" XLT FX4 V10 Auto 4x4 3.73s -- Traded
1976 F150 LWB Custom 4x4 390FE NP435 3.50s
People at Pickuptrucks.com seem to think around 360HP for the 5.0 in the F150 (no direct injection) - but 400HP for the 5.0 in the Mustang.
EB and 6.2 will be the premium engines for the F150, and they say 400/400 is underestimating the power of the 6.2. Where the two premium engines sit, and what they will be standard and optional in, is anyones guess, but I think most people agree the Coyote won't have as much power and torque in the F150, as the other two engines. One thing is for sure. All 3 engines are going to **** all over the Triton V8s
The numbers look like the 5.4 will soldier on available in the F150 thru April-May of next year, then the bulk of production shifts to the 6.2 PV8 line at Romeo plant. Probably enough of the 5.4 v8 for Econoline and ?
The Job 1 for the 6.2 is this week. The 5.0 production starts first week of December 2009 at Essex plant. There are a whole lot of F150 prototypes running 5.0 and 6.2 V8s.
Probably enough of the 5.4 v8 for Econoline and ?.
Expedition?
I appreciate your info. Hopefully this means the 6.2 will be available in loads of models. Dodge has the Hemi across their whole lineup. Toyota has the 5.7 iForce across the whole range. GM doesn't have the 6.2 across the whole range. GM is bankrupt. Who should Ford target?
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