Tow/ Haul mode
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09-27-2009, 07:31 AM
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Chris:
The prodigy is still on when connected, and does continue to assess how you apply the brakes even when trailer is disconnected. it will show the -.DC.- on the viewer indicating disconnected. The electronics still receive input from how you apply your brake pedal, I.e. stab, gradual pressure, hard pressure with letoff, etc.....
Overdrive off and tow haul are 2 different animals as far as gears go. There are people with more knowledge than me here, but they are not the same thing.
I traded the 05 (LOved that truck) for a 2009 F250 6.4L (love this truck)
Barry's description of his problem lead me to believe he wasn't using brake control....
The prodigy is still on when connected, and does continue to assess how you apply the brakes even when trailer is disconnected. it will show the -.DC.- on the viewer indicating disconnected. The electronics still receive input from how you apply your brake pedal, I.e. stab, gradual pressure, hard pressure with letoff, etc.....
Overdrive off and tow haul are 2 different animals as far as gears go. There are people with more knowledge than me here, but they are not the same thing.
I traded the 05 (LOved that truck) for a 2009 F250 6.4L (love this truck)
Barry's description of his problem lead me to believe he wasn't using brake control....
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09-27-2009, 07:48 AM
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Wow
I ran a Prodigy on my Dodge connected with "DC" showing thinking it was in the off position and no longer connected to the truck or it's systems. I guess I didn't read the instruction booklet if stated. I'm glad I bought the truck that had in the internal controller, I figured that if Ford had gone to the trouble to work out a trans/brake/anti-sway system I should get it complete and it works great
. Chris
I ran a Prodigy on my Dodge connected with "DC" showing thinking it was in the off position and no longer connected to the truck or it's systems. I guess I didn't read the instruction booklet if stated. I'm glad I bought the truck that had in the internal controller, I figured that if Ford had gone to the trouble to work out a trans/brake/anti-sway system I should get it complete and it works great. Chris
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09-27-2009, 08:00 AM
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The wife drives the truck 90% of the time..... she's one of the types that races to the stop light I couldn't figure out why I always had to increase the gain when I towed !@#$% I have the integrated controller now, so that should alleviate all the guess work now! For you Barry: I highly recommend you use a brake controller when you tow, even if it is only 4K. You'll be amazed at the difference, and you will save your brakes!!
I couldn't figure out why I always had to increase the gain when I towed !@#$% I have the integrated controller now, so that should alleviate all the guess work now! For you Barry: I highly recommend you use a brake controller when you tow, even if it is only 4K. You'll be amazed at the difference, and you will save your brakes!!
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09-27-2009, 08:32 AM
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09-27-2009, 09:50 AM
Well I can say, I agree with trying to learn the new Tranny... Mine liked to hang in gears for ever. I could put threw my neighborhood (not towing) and it would stay in first gear, at 2800 rpm's. I was mad and went back to the dealer with my hands flying all over...
The salesman was nice, who now is a friend. He hooked me up to the Motorsport tech, who took my truck into service, and adjusted shift strategies, amongst other things.
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09-27-2009, 07:12 PM
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I have always had trailers with brakes so I have always used a controller. Now I have varied the output as my loads get either heavier or lighter but I have found with this new Ford system, I have been setting for the heavier load and leaving it at that setting. Even after the load is off the trailer brakes very nicely. It almost as if the internal control pulses the trailer brakes, I don't if it does but it feels that way. Chris
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09-28-2009, 09:41 AM
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i have only towed twice with my 09. first time was a tractor/trailer(22ft) combo at about 5k lbs, had trailer brakes and used tow/haul mode. took a little bit to get used to the trans shift settings. i wasnt used to it coming out of an 05 f150 that didnt have that. i was used to downshifting myself if i needed to.
the second time was 4wheeler/trailer combo at about 1500lbs. didnt used tow/haul mode. it pulled just fine without it, just like it wasnt even back there.
the second time was 4wheeler/trailer combo at about 1500lbs. didnt used tow/haul mode. it pulled just fine without it, just like it wasnt even back there.
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07-09-2013, 09:00 PM
Excerpted from the owner's manual .....------------------------------
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D (Drive) with Tow/Haul On
The Tow/Haul feature improves transmission operation when towing a trailer or a heavy load. All transmission gear ranges are available when using Tow/Haul.
Tow/Haul can be activated by pressing the transmission control switch on the end of the gearshift lever (column-shift transmission) or on the side of the gearshift lever (floor-shift transmission).
The TOW HAUL indicator light will illuminate in the instrument cluster.
Tow/haul delays upshifts to reduce frequency of transmission shifting. Tow/haul also provides engine braking in all forward gears when the transmission is in the D (Drive) position; this engine braking will slow the vehicle and assist the driver in controlling the vehicle when descending a grade. Depending on driving conditions and load conditions, the transmission may downshift, slow the vehicle and control the vehicle speed when descending a hill, without the accelerator pedal being pressed. The amount of downshift braking provided will vary based upon the amount the brake pedal is pressed.
To deactivate the tow/haul feature and return to normal driving mode, press the button on the end of the gearshift lever. The TOW HAUL light will no longer be illuminated. Tow/haul will also deactivate when the vehicle is powered down.
The Tow/Haul feature improves transmission operation when towing a trailer or a heavy load. All transmission gear ranges are available when using Tow/Haul.
Tow/Haul can be activated by pressing the transmission control switch on the end of the gearshift lever (column-shift transmission) or on the side of the gearshift lever (floor-shift transmission).
The TOW HAUL indicator light will illuminate in the instrument cluster.
Tow/haul delays upshifts to reduce frequency of transmission shifting. Tow/haul also provides engine braking in all forward gears when the transmission is in the D (Drive) position; this engine braking will slow the vehicle and assist the driver in controlling the vehicle when descending a grade. Depending on driving conditions and load conditions, the transmission may downshift, slow the vehicle and control the vehicle speed when descending a hill, without the accelerator pedal being pressed. The amount of downshift braking provided will vary based upon the amount the brake pedal is pressed.
To deactivate the tow/haul feature and return to normal driving mode, press the button on the end of the gearshift lever. The TOW HAUL light will no longer be illuminated. Tow/haul will also deactivate when the vehicle is powered down.
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At 2K you need brakes. Check your local state law but most states require a trailer brake at 2K or more. The brake can both assist in stopping or when lightly applied can stop the trailer from swaying.
I drove truck across NYS and had a boat & travel trailer both had brakes at 2k. If you have pulled any weight stopping isnt as easy, hard on your truck & can burn out your brakes. If you tow anything AND have the family with you; put the best brakes you can find on the truck. It just might save your life.
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05-26-2014, 04:45 AM
At 2K you need brakes. Check your local state law but most states require a trailer brake at 2K or more. The brake can both assist in stopping or when lightly applied can stop the trailer from swaying.
I drove truck across NYS and had a boat & travel trailer both had brakes at 2k. If you have pulled any weight stopping isnt as easy, hard on your truck & can burn out your brakes. If you tow anything AND have the family with you; put the best brakes you can find on the truck. It just might save your life.
I drove truck across NYS and had a boat & travel trailer both had brakes at 2k. If you have pulled any weight stopping isnt as easy, hard on your truck & can burn out your brakes. If you tow anything AND have the family with you; put the best brakes you can find on the truck. It just might save your life.
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#29
05-26-2014, 11:18 PM
I guess he was expecting some modicum of common sense. Sadly, you failed that test.
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05-27-2014, 04:27 AM
