Hard starts after sitting for long periods
#46
Hey bismic
I got the latest flash Ford had as of 04/28/09. Not sure of any test I can do othe than an injector test and monitoring the input and out put volts of the FICM. The input V is 12-13 and output is almost steady at 48v. Still not sure what my ICP pressures should be at idle and WOT or what the IPR duty cycle should be in both cases.
I got the latest flash Ford had as of 04/28/09. Not sure of any test I can do othe than an injector test and monitoring the input and out put volts of the FICM. The input V is 12-13 and output is almost steady at 48v. Still not sure what my ICP pressures should be at idle and WOT or what the IPR duty cycle should be in both cases.
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#48
Thats true.....But it has been suggested I may have a slow leak in the HPO system that after sitting for a few days, lets a little air into the system. The codes That I did find(cam and crank sensors) have been removed and I am waiting to see if they return after a couple more drive cycles.
#49
Any further info on this problem?? I have the same symptoms... I have used a data capture tool to determine that my ICP pressure sits at almost zero for about 3.5 seconds, then jumps up rapidly and the truck starts. After running for a minute it will restart quickly... but if the truck sits for 5-6 hours it will crank 3-4 seconds again before building ICP high enough to start.
I suspect a HPO leak somewhere that allows drain back after sitting for a while, then it takes a few seconds to purge/compress the air in the system before building enough pressure to start.
(My truck is an 07 F350)
I suspect a HPO leak somewhere that allows drain back after sitting for a while, then it takes a few seconds to purge/compress the air in the system before building enough pressure to start.
(My truck is an 07 F350)
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#53
eddiedebb,
Have you tried performing a power balance test with the AE? If you do have injector problems, this may give you some data to work with.
I would say that a HPO problem is unlikely if you have 600+ psi right away when you are experiencing a hard start. Did you actually capture this 600+ psi during a hard start?
Have you tried performing a power balance test with the AE? If you do have injector problems, this may give you some data to work with.
I would say that a HPO problem is unlikely if you have 600+ psi right away when you are experiencing a hard start. Did you actually capture this 600+ psi during a hard start?
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#55
I don't know how to do a power balance test with the AE (or any tool for that matter), but it's a free test considering that you already have the AE! See if you can find some details on how to do one... esentially it kills one cylinder at a time while the engine is running and it measures the changes in engine output, if all cylinders are contributing equally then the change should be identical when each cylinder is "killed". If there are problems, then the imbalances should show up.
also, this may be a shot in the dark, but you may be able to temporarily (or permanently?) hide some injector problems by adding a lubricity improver to your fuel. It would be a cheap and harmless test anyway to see if it has any effect.
One of the Ford additives, or Stanadyne would be fine. I've been adding this to every tank of my fuel for the past 10,000kms without any immediate problems:
http://www.renewablelube.com/pdf/2C-...20Cond.doc.pdf
also, this may be a shot in the dark, but you may be able to temporarily (or permanently?) hide some injector problems by adding a lubricity improver to your fuel. It would be a cheap and harmless test anyway to see if it has any effect.
One of the Ford additives, or Stanadyne would be fine. I've been adding this to every tank of my fuel for the past 10,000kms without any immediate problems:
http://www.renewablelube.com/pdf/2C-...20Cond.doc.pdf
#56
I've been looking for a reference to the power balance test procedure on a 6.0 using the AE... and it's looking like you can't do it, although I did find a few references where folks said you could. Here is the most authoritative thing I found:
ITP Powerstroke Diagnostic Hints
ITP Powerstroke Diagnostic Hints
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