Ok,
__I know this is kinda a simple question.
But I want to be sure of what all that is involved to do this.

Here we go.

I just might be given a job to swap engines, transmissions,
& mabe axles on two 78's.

I can do the job, no sweat. I just want to know every detail of
what will be involed, so I don't come across any surprise's.

Here's what there will be to work with:

A blue 78' 2wd standerd cab short bed with
460ci eng., C6 trans, & a 9" axle.
Gage cluster: full-gages.
Fuel tank: single-aft

The other is a
Red 78' 2wd standerd cab long bed with
302ci eng., C4-HD trans, & (I think) 8.8 axle. or a 7.5"
Gage cluster: two idiot lights.
Fuel tank: single-aft

Alright, I await any answers.
.

 

I,
__take it that no one has done this?

& that I'm alone amongest all of this matter?

 

The red truck could have a D44 but most likely a 9". The 8.8 didn't appear until 84 I think, but at any rate not around till the 80s. What exactally do you want to know? This question is kinda vague. You could fill pages going over every detail but you say you can do it no sweat. We need a little more to go on, anything specific you would like to know? You will have to swap engine perches, and I don't know if your C6 yoke will work with a C4 drive shaft and vise versa. Thats the main thing that sticks out to me.
-Johnboy

 

I,
__already know that I will need to find a driveshaft from a long bed with a C6 trans & ford 9" axle.
I also did say it might be a 7.5".
Until I decifer the axle tag, I won't know for sure.

What I was referring to on the little-details.
Is things like engine wiring harness.

Will I need to swap the 460ci eng. harness into the red long-bed,
Or will I be able to use the Eng. harness that is already in the truck?
.

 

7.5 was car only until the Courier came out never used in half ton and larger trucks. D44 and a 9" would be the only two axles in either one of those trucks, if it has an inspection cover it is a D44 or some one has be swapping stuff.
-Johnbohy

 

I,
__have a feeling that alot of things could be "off" on this red truck.
It's had what some would call a quick'e restore.
The truck was cleaned up, painted, new parts thrown on, & some other parts refreshed. But the details where comepletly missed.

This is probaly why the axle is throwing me off.
With the age of these trucks, things like this are becoming all too common.
It's these down an dirty restorations for money just makes me sick.

As for the truck itself I'll have to just get the rest of the tags no.'s & have bill help me decode them.
.

 

Well if the axle is a swapped unit we will need some pics to try to get it IDed.
-Johnboy

 

Got,
__ the axle code.

2.72 D7TA JA
603903-1
.
With further study (daylight involved) It looks to be a Dana-44.

Here's the truck's distributor tag.

50
D8TE
12127
BA
8G 28
.
Door tag.

VIN F10GUGJ1205
WB 133" color 2 type/G.V.W. F101 body DZ4 trans. G axle 02J
GVWR 04800 /1978/ D.S.O. 28

.

 

I,
__didn't find much on the Blue truck.

The 460ci in it now was built in 1976'.
At least if the truck still has it's stock valve covers.

Coudn't locate a tag for the axle.

.

 

F10 = F100 2WD

G = 302 2V

U = Louisville KY Assembly Plant

GJ1205 = 1978

133" Wheelbase

2 = Medium Copper

F101 = F100 2WD / 4800 lb. GVWR

DZ4: DZ = Tan and Saddle all Vinyl with Saddle Appointments // 4 = Styleside Pickup, Bench Seat.

G = Ford used the letter G for all A/T's thru 1978. It's prolly a C4, tho the C6 was available for the first time in 1978 w/the 302 engine.

02J: 02 = Dana 44.3 / 2.72-1 / non Limited Slip / 2900 lb. Rear Axle Capacity // J = Power Steering.

4800 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating

1978

28 = Louisville KY Ford District Sales Zone Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.
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Post #9

How do you know the 460 engine was made in 1976?

What's the difference between a 1976 460, and one from 1978? Nothing.

1979: Now, that's a different story.

Block casting code: D1VE-6015-AB, AB1, AB2: 1971/73 429 (passenger cars) / 1971/78 460 (F100/350, E150/350, passenger cars) / Some 1979 E/F100/350 460. Engine does not use a weighted spacer.

(No 460 engines were installed in passenger cars after 1978).

Block casting code: D9TE-6015-AB: Some 1979 E/F100/350's. Engine uses a weighted spacer.

Model year 1979: There is no before/from a certain serial number, or before/from a certain production date, because the D9TE-AB block was a running change.

Not only does the D9TE-AB engine use a weighted spacer, the flexplate and harmonic balancer are specific to this block casting number ONLY. This block was used thru 1986.

 

Two,
__things Bill...
Wonderment, & amazing.
Thanks-again.
_______________________

As for the #9 post.
I really don't know for sure if it was made in 76'
The best I could do, was read the valve cover's emissions tag.

If it has it's original covers. Then I'm good.
If not, then I'm scr*wed on the whole matter.

I already know that this isn't the stock eng. for the blue truck.
Whoever put it in though, did one hell of a job.
At first looks you can't tell it wasn't stock.

Makes my job of swapping drivetrains a little easier.
.

 

Oh,
__yah.
Say bill, could you tell me if the Dana-44, & the 9" used the same U-joint?

If they do, I won't have to swap the axles.
(Unless the gearing is too far apart.)

 

8.8" rear axle introduced 1983.

The 9" continued to be used in some Bronco's, F150's & E150's thru 1986.

In order to find U-Joints, the driveshaft has to be looked up...first (not pleasant!).

Then after the correct driveshaft has been figured out, then the U-Joint code(s) listed for that particular driveshaft are decoded:

Code 45: #1310 size = 1978 Dana 44 & C4 / (2) C3AZ-4635-E.

Code 35: #1330 size = 1977/79 Ford 9" & C6 / (2) C4SZ-4635-B.

 

My,
__mistake on the red truck's axle.
When I first looked, sun was setting,
That & I never came across one with a stock dentside with Dana.
Herd of 'em, Never seen'em... til' now.
________________________________

Blue truck VIN: F10GCBA40308

Currntly has 460ci, C6 trnz, & 9" axle (tag for axle may be buried under alot of crud. otherwise didn't see it.)

 

F10 = F100 2WD

G = 302 2V

C = Oakville, Ontario Canada Assembly Plant. This does not mean the truck was sold in Canada only...it could have been sold anywhere in the US or Canada.

BA = 1978. 1978 serial number range: AE0,001 thru CK9,999.