Was driving yesterday, and all of a sudden no transmission. I sitting there like wtf... so I put it into neutral, and back down into drive. It starts to accelerate again, and then nothing... now I'm really starting to see the dollar signs fly as I'm thinking the transmission just blew apart. So I hit the OD button, and bingo... everything starts working again. Shifts fine, no slipping. I turn OD back on, and it just freewheels. So here's my question... HUH????? I have an appointment at the stealership tomorrow morning. Any ideas on what I'm looking at? I would think that if I had lost OD, that I would get gears in 1-2-3, but no OD. Have not had any problems with the trans up to this point (minus the 1-2 shift flare I posted here a couple years ago... which was a software problem) No slipping, so excessively rough shifts up or down.... so I'm at a loss. I'm praying that it's a shift solenoid or something cheap like that.
Did some additional self diagnosis last night... and as suspected it free-wheeled in 2nd when I pulled it down... so I suspected mechanical damage in the trans. Brought it to the dealership this morning, and they did the electronic diag and found everything was ok electrically with it... so it was mechanical. When the tech dropped the pan, there were little metal bits scattered all over. So... new trans it is. The cost for the reman'd trans is actually right on par for what I was looking at... just under $2100 including a new torque converter. That was for a 3yr/100K warranty. The real pain is the labor. The are killing me for just over $1300. I asked what book time was... and it's listing at just over 10hours. Damn this sucks
yes... it included the new trans cooler.
I'm keeping track of the hours and going to make sure they justify everything.
The problem is, I need the truck up and running before Friday. The wife is already on vacation with my trailer and I meet up with her this weekend.... so I just don't have the time to do it myself... otherwise I would be doing it.
I looked up what the book says for my 08 Expedition and for remove and replace, it calls for complete assembly without removal of parts-7.3 hours, 7.9 hours with transfer of parts, another hour to flush cooler lines, R&R torque converter and driveplate.
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2008 Expedition Eddie Bauer 4x2
So my sister went to Mr. Transmission and they said about $900 to replace the OD band so they checked the computer ...no codes, pulled transmission and there was metal everywhere. Said a clip came loose and wrecked everything. $ 3300 including taxes to fix. It is a 4R75W aparently rare and expensive to fix. I found some used locally $1100 to $1200 with 100 to 120000 km.
She asked how much to take it out of the shop as is and they droped 10% off to make it $3000. So that's what she is doing.
Sorry it took me a couple of weeks to come back to this one, but the long and short of it is... the dealer stole $3400 from me for the reman'd trans. Got a 3year/100K warranty, so at least I feel a little better about it. (not much though, cause it still hurts a couple of weeks later) The dealer quoted time is for the job, not the "hours" it takes to do it. When I looked it up on alldata, it showed like 6.9 hours to R&R the trans for warranty, and 10.7 for standard. This included transfer of parts, flush cooler lines and R&R trans cooler. So, the dealer fell right into that time frame. When I questioned them about it, they informed me that the 6.9 hours is what they get reimbursed from Ford to do the job. The rest of us schmoes get to fork out the extra hours. I also asked them about how many of these they've done, and was told that only a handful since 2004... so as long as they weren't lying to me, it is an uncommon problem.
Prior to bringing it in, I had done some "testing" on my own... and tried the get up to 50mph and pull it down into 2nd... if you get engine breaking, it should be ok mechanically.... unfortunately, mine just free-wheeled... so I knew I was screwed before I even got there. When they pulled the pan, they called me back into the bay to show me the shrapnel in the pan. Not real nice to see little metal bits in there.
I had warranty on mine when it went. Would have cost me 3300 but it cost me 500 for the new trans instead of the used one and a 100 deductiable and a new trans cooler. So about 700. I didnt have a Ford warranty. I had General Electric and they wanted to put a used trans in or I would have to dish out 500 for a new one. I picked the new one with the 3 year 100000 mile warranty
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