I have a VIN. Where can I find the info on it.
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I didn't mention in my last post that this was all to be done without removing the vehicle from the property. And as mentioned, if this is a storage lot, via rental units, that's a whole different ball of wax, that 51MHF5 describes. I was thinking it was a private property of sorts. (I'm more familiar with the abandoned farm field type thing)
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In California, any thing left on someone elses property for 45 or more days is considered abandoned, unless some other signal of intent or agreement has been made. I'm not sure what the time frame is in Colorado.
But since the truck is on someones land, and it has been abandoned there, it now belongs to them. I would offer them $100 for it and ask them to sign an Affadvit stating that "the vehicle has been abandoned on their property longer than 'XX' (you will have to find the time limit in Colorado - look online), they assume ownership of it and are selling it to you." Those affadavits are available at most DMV offices.
Chances are the DMV will not have a record of it and will allow you to apply for a new title. Once you do that, you will have to fulfill their requirements for a registration and plates. All states are different - you may need to get it road worthy and inspected there.
Here, the requirements are pretty tough - cash, checks, or credit card will get you pretty much whatever you want.
But since the truck is on someones land, and it has been abandoned there, it now belongs to them. I would offer them $100 for it and ask them to sign an Affadvit stating that "the vehicle has been abandoned on their property longer than 'XX' (you will have to find the time limit in Colorado - look online), they assume ownership of it and are selling it to you." Those affadavits are available at most DMV offices.
Chances are the DMV will not have a record of it and will allow you to apply for a new title. Once you do that, you will have to fulfill their requirements for a registration and plates. All states are different - you may need to get it road worthy and inspected there.
Here, the requirements are pretty tough - cash, checks, or credit card will get you pretty much whatever you want.
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Just a bit of Technical Truck Trivia: VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) is a term that was invented by the publishers of the Kelley Blue Book.
Kelley aka Kelley Kar Company...at one time...was the largest used car dealer in the world.
His lot stretched for one entire block on Figueroa Street, downtown LA's Auto Row (today, the Staples Center is where Kelley was located).
Kelley established the Blue Book for one major reason: Financing. Every vehicle has a wholesale & retail price.
The loan value is established as a certain percentage of the wholesale price for each vehicle.
Prior to the Kelley Blue Book, there was no set prices for used vehicles. Since no one knew the values, there was no way to establish fair prices inre to financing.
Caveat at the bottom of each page: Deduct for reconditioning.
Kelley was also a Ford Dealer in the 1940's/50's.
17 digit VINs were not established until sometime later - early 1980's....and before they were 11 digits beginning in 1957 (trucks only).
What we have on ours truck is what Ford refered to as a Serial Number - not a VIN. So, the Serial Number you posted above is what will be used as a VIN for registration purposes.
The serial number is the last 6 digits of the VIN. It was this way in 1948, and is....to this day.
Kelley aka Kelley Kar Company...at one time...was the largest used car dealer in the world.
His lot stretched for one entire block on Figueroa Street, downtown LA's Auto Row (today, the Staples Center is where Kelley was located).
Kelley established the Blue Book for one major reason: Financing. Every vehicle has a wholesale & retail price.
The loan value is established as a certain percentage of the wholesale price for each vehicle.
Prior to the Kelley Blue Book, there was no set prices for used vehicles. Since no one knew the values, there was no way to establish fair prices inre to financing.
Caveat at the bottom of each page: Deduct for reconditioning.
Kelley was also a Ford Dealer in the 1940's/50's.
17 digit VINs were not established until sometime later - early 1980's....and before they were 11 digits beginning in 1957 (trucks only).
What we have on ours truck is what Ford refered to as a Serial Number - not a VIN. So, the Serial Number you posted above is what will be used as a VIN for registration purposes.
The serial number is the last 6 digits of the VIN. It was this way in 1948, and is....to this day.
The problem was...if the engine was changed, the numbers did not match, unless done by a Ford dealer, who would stamp the old serial number on the replaced engine.
But not all the dealers did this, even though Henry demanded it.
1948 and later trucks (1949 and later cars) are registered by the VIN = Vehicle Identification Number. The VIN registers the entire vehicle.
Beginning in the late 1980's, the VIN is also stamped on the engine. Prior years, it was rarely stamped on the engine except for some HiPo's.
Ford Motor Company:
17 digit VIN's: 1980 thru today passenger cars / 1981 thru today trucks.
11 digit VIN's: 1960/79 passenger cars / 1957/81 trucks.
10 digit VIN's: 1949/59 passenger cars / 1948/56 trucks.
97HY278840:
9 = 1949
7 = I-6
H = Highland Park MI Assembly Plant
Y = F3
278840 = Serial Number aka Numerical Sequence of Assembly.
Julie: How do I know about Kelley? I was raised in this business, as my family owned...for nearly 80 years: Oldsmobile & Cadillac dealerships.
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