Well I am in a power hunger adiction right now! I go thru this every year and spend some money, HA I want to learn more about this Hybrid Injector! I was told my stocker can be upgraded to the hybrid? I was thinking of going single shot but I guess the Hybrid gives better mpg and is just as good as the ss and might even flow more than the ss? anyways I just want to know more about the hybrids? any info anyone?thanks in advance!
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You make one by taking the plunger and barrel assembly from a B-code injector and stick it in an A-code. What happens is the injection pressure ratio drops. This means that you can flow just about as much fuel as a B-code, but only use as much oil as an A-code to do it.
The other part of a hybrid setup is choosing your nozzle. If you stick with stock nozzles, you can tune a hybrid to run exactly like a stock injector. Increase the pulsewidth and/or ICP and you get more fuel. If you go with a larger nozzle, you can actually flow more fuel in the same amount of pulsewidth. However, to tune back down to a stock level of power, you have to cut back on pulsewidth. It can be done fairly easily by most tuners, but timing does get a bit tricky. The advantage of larger nozzles really hits home at higher RPM's, as you don't have as much time to inject fuel at faster engine speeds, so the larger nozzle helps to flow more fuel in a shorter amount of time.
Hybrids are a very versatile injector. They can flow large quantities of fuel, and do it with less oil than straight up B-codes. At the same time, they can be tamed with tuning to be very streetable, and are great for towing when matched with a proper turbo setup. For an all-around setup, hybrids are the way to go.
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Aw sheet, Curtis beat me to it. Oh well, his explanation is better
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Do NOT buy from them, unless you want a truck that runs like total crap.
They won't even give you the specs of their injector rebuilds. Without the specs, you can't tune correctly for them. Only a hack job shop would be like that to their customers.
Any quality shop will give you all specs on injector builds, plus provide you with flow matching and sheets to show the flow match.
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Blaine if you are interested in looking into larger injectors, you can do like I did on a budget. I wouldnt quite recommend the DIY kits b/c you cannot bench flow test them, as well as check every part. I have a very good friend who works at a Diesel Injector shop that deals only with the HEUI injectors and I had him build mine on the side at the shop. I bought the nozzles separate and shipped them to him, he took a set of cores from the shop, went through everyone of them, replaced all wear parts, flowed and tested all injectors, and they have all the right equipment, as I mentioned these are the only type of injectors that they deal with. If you are looking into hybrids I thought I would throw this out there as an option, and as others have said, Curtis hit the nail on the head with a great explanation.
However, there is so much more that goes into it besides throwing in a set of hybrids. You are good to go with your motor since it has forged rods. Depending on what size of hybrids/nozzles you went with, there are alot of supporting mods that need to be addressed aswell, such as turbos, fuel system, big oil(depending on how large of hybrids), and not only the stuff for the motor, you have to think about the rest of the truck too, like a clutch if you have a manual, and alot stouter trans if you have an auto(as I mentioned, it depends on how big of hybrids). Along with a list of other things.
It also depends on what you plan to do with the truck, whether it be a daily driver, tow truck, weekend toy etc as to what size injectors/turbo/nozzles/....would best fit the intended purpose.
It all comes down to how much money you want to drop on it. And dont get me wrong you can do quite alot on a budget, it depends on how much you want to squeeze out of what you're running in it.
Hope this helps a little, I've been there before
Fep 9 I bought my truck, only had a pos banks chip, exh and intake
Apr 3 I had the motor tore down to the block rebuilding it for a lil extra hp lol
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Thanks Curtis for the info and heads up. Been talking to different members here that run them trying to learn more and its greatly appreciated. I,m definitly going for hybrids from a reputable builder as my next investment.. Reps to yaa..
Do NOT buy from them, unless you want a truck that runs like total crap.
They won't even give you the specs of their injector rebuilds. Without the specs, you can't tune correctly for them. Only a hack job shop would be like that to their customers.
Any quality shop will give you all specs on injector builds, plus provide you with flow matching and sheets to show the flow match.
Stay Stay STAY away from those jerks.. They are trash.. it only cost me about $4k in labor swapping out my injectors in Ford dealerships across the country to find out!
Thankfully Riffraff saved me and taught me how to R&R injectors!
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Stay Stay STAY away from those jerks.. They are trash.. it only cost me about $4k in labor swapping out my injectors in Ford dealerships across the country to find out!
Thankfully Riffraff saved me and taught me how to R&R injectors!
I thought I remember someone here having a problem with Diesel Care and Performance, but I couldn't think of who it was. Now you've jogged my memory.
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