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Old 08-04-2009, 04:29 AM
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Whats a ton and a half, 2 Ton, 5 Ton Etc?

What does this really mean?
My F600 weighs 10,000 LBS, The Gross vehicle weight rating is 19,500 LBS So I can legaly put 9500 more pounds on it...That is almost 5 tons.... But I think they call an F600 a 2 ton, doesn't make any sense.
Anyone know how that works??

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Traditionally I believe it worked like this:

1/2 ton = F100
3/4 ton = F250
1 ton = F350
1 1/2 ton = F450
2 ton = F550
2 1/2 ton = F650
etc. etc.
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These days (if ever), it's got nothing to do with the truck's capabilities nor unladen weight.

What's a 1968 F600? a 2 and a quarter ton according to Adrian's list?

It's a good question. And you'll probably get a lot of people arguing one way or another
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I think it would be a 2 1/2 ton... as the marketing on the F600 changed to the F650.

But as mentioned, it had nothing to do with the vehicles real world capabilities, especially nowadays.
I know the "2&1/2 ton Duece's" had a 5000lb (2 1/2 tons) offroad payload capacity, but double that on highway's...
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Well around here, in rural southern Illinois, seems the locals (farmers) refer to a single rear axle truck as a 2 ton and a tandem as a 10-wheeler, with the f-550s and f-450s still being called a 1 ton. Then you get into trucks that have an air tag or pusher axle and things get more complicated. The 2-1/2 ton and 5 ton typically refer to military trucks, usually with the smaller trucks being a 2-1/2 ton and the newer (usually newer) larger trucks being a 5 ton. Basically has little to do with GVW or axle ratings and the word "ton" is used simply as a figure of speech. So around here anyway, your F600 would be a 2-ton. Not sayin thats right or wrong, just the way I've come to understand it lol.
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So, according to this:
1/2 ton = F100
3/4 ton = F250
1 ton = F350
1 1/2 ton = F450
2 ton = F550
2 1/2 ton = F650

my F350 with a GVWR of 11,000 # is really an old F550! Neat.


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So, according to this:
1/2 ton = F100
3/4 ton = F250
1 ton = F350
1 1/2 ton = F450
2 ton = F550
2 1/2 ton = F650

my F350 with a GVWR of 11,000 # is really an old F550! Neat.
No, what you have is a single rear wheel one ton Pickup that the bank owns.
Take your credit cards and go elseware troll.

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Thankyou all for responding, It seems to be just a way categorizing different sizes of trucks and not what they will haul.

I'll quit trying to make sense of it now

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No, what you have is a single rear wheel one ton Pickup that the bank owns.
Take your credit cards and go elseware troll.

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You are assuming many facts not in evidence.........a one ton pickup that is rated for 2 ton? Did you pull my credit report? Do you even know if I have more than one credit card? Me troll? Back, I say....back under your own bridge......

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Maybe a stickied database of the different sizes for each year, where changes are noted, is in order? What does the GVWR plate say?
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Take your credit cards and go elseware troll.
I'm not against infracting "Large Truck" enthusiasts
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You are assuming many facts not in evidence.........a one ton pickup that is rated for 2 ton?
A F350 srw is almost always considered a one ton even though in actual capability they are VERY similar to a heavy 3/4 ton (in the 98.5-present super duty trucks at least) to the point of being identical except for the badge on the fender; and by the way 11,000lb would be the equivalent of 5.5 tons....
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At the risk of turning this into a Superduty discussion, there are other differences between an F250 and an F350 than the badges which I won't go into here.

alchymist's point is that his F350 is rated for about 2 tons of payload in the bed. Or at least, that's how I'm taking his statement
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At the risk of turning this into a Superduty discussion, there are other differences between an F250 and an F350 than the badges which I won't go into here.

alchymist's point is that his F350 is rated for about 2 tons of payload in the bed. Or at least, that's how I'm taking his statement
You take it correctly........
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Based on what little I know, the "1/2 ton" etc ratings are convenient nominal designations, left over from a time 50 years distant when those ratings were based somewhat in fact.

The historical reference would be my dad, Machinist Mate 3rd Class, WWII, Pacific. The GMC trucks were called "2 1/2 ton". But when you hear artillery coming, or are on the attack, they hauled a lot more.

As indicated and referenced in prior posts, check the GVWR rating, and load accordingly.

I note my new "little truck" will carry as much as my "half ton" Econoline did.....

As for the F600 vs. F650, not sure when that change occured. But, the F650's that I see are twice the truck older F600s were. 10 hole Budd wheels, air brakes, much bigger rubber, oilburner motors. Compared to our '58 with a 292, 4 & 2 trans and axle, and 8.25 x 20 tires, they are, well, like 50 years apart.

Keep on truckin', yall....
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