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Old 07-28-2009, 07:38 PM
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Gas fill on the Box?

Ok so my 67 has the tank behind the seat with the filler on the side of the box.

But it also has a patch on the side of the box that someone actually for once on this truck did a decent job of fixing lol along with what appears to be a factory made peice of sheet metal that covers were the filler neck would come through the box and through the bed.

The hole that goes through the bed was cut out with a torch so I know that the box wasnt set up for it but that peice of sheet metal makes me wonder.

Somebody got any info on it?
 
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P.S its a shortbox two wheel drive.
 
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When you talk about the box do you mean the bed of the truck? Does the tank behind the seat have a fill tube on the side of the cab behind the driver door? Do you have a second tank on the inside of the frame rail under the truck?
My 71 has the second tank under the truck and the fill tube extends up through the bottom of the bed then exits through the side of the bed where it is capped for fueling. The hole coming through the bottom of my bed has been cut with a torch and then a formed piece of metal has been placed there to cover the hole and protect the fill tube before it exits to the side.
I believe the extra tank was a dealer option, and the hole in the bed was torched by the dealer. I am not sure why that hole was torched but the hole in the side of the bed looks to be stamped.
Are you saying that the hole in the side of your bed has been covered with some sort of plug instead of a fill tube and cap? NumberDummy will be able to shed some light on this (I believe jowilker is looking for him on another issue as well).
 
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Old 07-28-2009, 08:47 PM
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It does not have a tank under the bed only the one behind the seat with the fill neck coming out the behind the driver door on the cab.

Some sort of plug/patch was put on the bed but it doesnt look like it was stamped into the box but it may have been cut out when it was covered.
 
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:15 PM
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Saddle tanks were not factory installed. As it would appear some hack installed yours and it was later removed.
 
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If by hack you mean Ford Dealers; I am sure you are right about some of them. I am sure these were dealer options, I am not sure why the hole in the bottom of the bed is torched (every one I have seen) and the hole in the side of the bed is cut or stamped more uniform. The blank covering the hole after removal sounds unique to me. I would like to see one if anyone has a picture.
 
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MidMich67
Ok so my 67 has the tank behind the seat with the filler on the side of the box.

But it also has a patch on the side of the box that someone actually for once on this truck did a decent job of fixing lol along with what appears to be a factory made peice of sheet metal (No such thing) that covers were the filler neck would come through the box and through the bed.

The hole that goes through the bed was cut out with a torch so I know that the box wasnt set up for it but that peice of sheet metal makes me wonder.
Where is this hole located? **

Somebody got any info on it?
Beginning with model year 1967 (thru 1972) Ford...for the first time...offered an optional 25 gallon auxillary tank on 8' Stylesides only.

The auxillary tank was not available on short bed Stylesides, or Flaresides.

The tank is mounted on the left (drivers) side, inside the left frame rail.

1967/69: The exposed filler neck/gas cap is mounted above the quarter panel (bed side) scallop line (Bumpside) about one foot behind the cab, almost in a direct line with the in-cab tanks filler cap.

1970/72: The exposed filler neck/gas cap is mounted below the scallop line about one foot behind the cab.

1961/76: IF there is a door (usually aluminum) on the quarter panel, with a fuel filler cap behind it, the tank is not factory. It was added after the truck was sold new.

Out here on the West Coast the Fey Bumper Co. installed 1000's of saddle tanks on Ford pickups.

Dealers...for the most part...did not install an outside manufacturers fuel tank(s) because there was no way to warranty them.

Then there's the legal issues. Many of these aftermarket saddle tanks were mounted outside the frame rails directly behind the quarter panels sheetmetal.

If T-Boned in this area (due to an accident), the gas tanks could explode. And they did, because...

Chevy/GMC did this very thing with their tanks on 1970's Fleetsides. They mounted the tank outside the left frame rail.

Once hit: KABOOM! The exploding Chevy/GMC gas tank fiasco was almost as well known as the exploding Pinto gas tank fiasco.

** Ford replacement quarter panels did not come with the hole punched out for the filler neck.

The hole had to cut using a hole saw or...a torch.

The auxillary tank has a manually operated valve on the floor adjacent to the seat to switch the tanks, and a switch below the dash to the left of the steering column to switch the dash fuel gauge from one tank to another.
 
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The Hole in the bed is in the front driverside corner of the box and the filler hole is located were you said it should be, right above the scallop on the side of the truck

My truck however is a shortbox which is why I was curious. I will take pictures here soon and post them not only of this but the whole truck seeing to the fact I havent done that yet.
 
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:19 PM
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NumberDummy, wouldn't the C7TZ 9927937-A (67-69) or the D0TZ 9927937-A (70-72) be the sheet metal cover they are talking about?
 
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NumberDummy, wouldn't the C7TZ 9927937-A (67-69) or the D0TZ 9927937-A (70-72) be the sheet metal cover they are talking about?
No, not the way I interpret what he's speaking of.

The OP refered to a some sort of a patch.

C7TZ9927937A / DOTZ9927937A .. Fuel Tank Filler Pipe Housing / Use with under cab fuel tank.

This housing is actually a shield for the filler pipe, fits on the inside of the bed. Used to keep cargo from hitting the filler neck.

Illustrated here: Sheet Metal Section: Page 28.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No, not the way I interpret what he's speaking of.

The OP refered to a some sort of a patch.

C7TZ9927937A / DOTZ9927967A .. Fuel Tank Filler Pipe Housing / Use with under cab fuel tank.
I think we might be dealing with two different issues here. I'm not talking about the patch.

The OP also referred to a piece of stamped sheet metal covering the pipe where it went through the bed and a hole cut in the floor of the bed, as did another poster.

The part numbers I listed are for the sheet metal cover.

If you look at the bed parts in the Illustration Manual, it shows the cover and the hole in the picture for the (99) model. It also shows the hole in the outside panel of the bed.
 
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Originally Posted by MidMich67
Ok so my 67 has the tank behind the seat with the filler on the side of the box.

But it also has a patch on the side of the box that someone actually for once on this truck did a decent job of fixing lol along with what appears to be a factory made peice of sheet metal C7TZ9927937A that covers were the filler neck would come through the box and through the bed.
This patch was what I was refering to, not the sheet metal piece in the box.

AFAIK, there is no "factory" patch panel.
 
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Okay. Agreed. Missed communication.

In your first response, you stated, "what appears to be a factory made peice of sheet metal (No such thing) that covers were the filler neck would come through the box and through the bed."

The OP's post said that someone had done a good job of patching the hole. I don't think he intended for us to think it was a factory-provided patch. I suppose it could have been taken that way.

If anybody is looking for one of these cover panels, let me know (the D0TZ model).
 
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This may have been my fault, I know the "Patch" on the box is not factory. I was curious about the stamped cover. Here are some pics.


This is the Cover I was curious about



This is the non factory patch in the side of the box

Notice the Hole torched in the bed

Hopefully these will clear up what I was referring to. I just didnt know if it was a factory peice or if it was aftermarket.
 
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:14 PM
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The stamped cover is a factory part. It looks like the installation was done after the truck was purchased.

It reinforces NumberDummy's post about where the filler was located on 67-69 vs. 70-up trucks.

The 67-69 cover is much taller than the 70-72.

You're right, it looks like it was done right, unless you're going to restore the bed and remove the cover. If that's the case, you've got your work cut out for you!!!

Thanks for the photos!!!
 


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