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Old 07-19-2009, 11:05 AM
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Thanks Greg,
I'll check it out now.
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Backhoe?

Class V ball hitch is max load 10,000 lbs.

Boob-cats are 5000lbs, plus the trailer.

You like living on edge?

Get a hitch made for this type of vehicle and load:

http://www.truckntow.com/pc-11227-14...ch-15-ton.aspx

You can weld on a 2" receiver mount for the light stuff, but for the main duties, use the big guy.

Google it, lots of sites.

Your trailer comes loose, somebody gets killed, it's all over.

BTW, you got $500,000 liability insurance on this thing? Big truck, big liability.
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:53 PM
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Yeah, I guess I must be insane......at least my wife says so....HA!
I'll check out the site you posted.
It's not that I plan on hauling an abrahms tank or anything, I just want to make sure that the bracket and hitch I get built onto my truck will be able to be used to the full capacity of the truck. What I may do, is use a trailer big enough to haul a small tractor and a vehicle at the same time. I will use the tractor to pull old cars or trucks etc. onto the trailer, and then use the truck to pull them off again once I drop the trailer. This wouldn't be a normal everday thing so I am just planning for it in case It happens. I will probably just pull a larger boat trailer and utility trailer for transport.
Anyway thanks for the help,
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Yeah that 15 ton pintle hitch would be perfect. I guess I could build into the bracket two holes, one on either side of the big hitch for regular ball hitches.
If I really want to pull a lot, I better put a 4 barrell on. I plan on going to dual exhaust soon too. I hear that helps with gas mileage. My truck actually gets pretty good gas mileage empty. Loaded it probably stinks, but at least it moves.
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Here's a thought, what weight can I realistically tow with my truck? Without destroying it I mean. I know the GVW is 17,000lbs but this is the first commercial duty truck I have owned so I need an education.
Also, what is involved in designing the truck to be 17,000lbs GVW. I mean, what components make the difference between a 17,000lb and 26,000lb truck or larger?
If my trucks empty weight is 10,000lbs can I only tow 7,000lbs?
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As to what you can tow, not sure, but your combo will pull a lot of weight, but not very fast....

Our '58 F600 had 24,000 gross tags on it, not sure how the old man did that. It had 8.25 x 20s.

Back to what makes the difference:

More power, of course, and frame strength, springs, axles, tires, and BRAKES. Did I mention BRAKES?

If you can look at a new F650, or an F700/750/800 from your vintage, you'll see it pretty clear.
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Your truck and load on your truck cannot weight more than what your data plate says. That is your GVWR (Gross vehicle weight rating) You should be able to tag your truck for 24,000 that would be your GCWR (Gross Combined Weight rating) Truck/Load/and trailer. My F600 is 19,500 on the data plate and was licensed for 26k.
So to answer your question if you are only tagged for 4500 right now, yes you are illeagal, and overweight empty.
Your truck could legally weigh 17k with a load on it if your was licensed for 17k
If you were licensed for 24k, than the sum of your truck load and trailer could not ad up to more than 24k, with no more than 17k being your truck with load on it.

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That makes sense Greg,
If I have no load on my truck, basically 10,000 lbs empty then can I tow a trailer and load of 14,000lbs? If I am tagged for it of course.
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Yeah that 15 ton pintle hitch would be perfect. I guess I could build into the bracket two holes, one on either side of the big hitch for regular ball hitches.
You would probably be better off putting the receiver hitch underneath the pintle hitch. Most pintle hitch trailer sit up higher than a standard ball-hitch trailer, not to mention the variety in heights of hitches you could get for the 2" receiver. We've built several large trucks this way, using a 1" thick steel plate at the rear of the frame, I work in a welding/fabricating/truck equipment shop and have built several dump trucks and winch trucks with this style of hitch.
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Pintle hitch/ball hitch combo...

Hi, thanks for the recommendation. I have been trying to get a welder to look at it, with no luck. Thanks again, Erich
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