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Old 07-06-2009, 02:07 PM
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California Seat belt Law for older trucks

So I have been looking on the internet to find seat belt information and can't find a good answer.
Do all trucks regardless of year have to have seat belts? I had briefly read that there was a certain year that you did not have to have seat belts, but don't remember the year or if it applies to California. My 69 does have seat belts, but they are not the original belts. If I was 3" thick I could fit into my seatbelt, but it's about 4" to short. I want to get an extension for it, but will probably have to fab something seeing these are not the original seat belts, until I find belts that are proper fro the truck.

CA DMV site does not list any exemptions, unsure if there are any.
 
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I found this:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27315.htm

Section 3, subsection F:
(f)( )<SUP>6</SUP> ) An owner of a motor vehicle, including ( )<SUP>7</SUP> an owner or operator of a taxicab, as defined in Section 27908, or a limousine for hire, operated on a highway shall maintain safety belts in good working order for the use of occupants of the vehicle. The safety belts shall conform to motor vehicle safety standards established by the United States Department of Transportation. This subdivision( )<SUP>8</SUP>, however, does not require installation or maintenance of safety belts ( )<SUP>9</SUP> if not required by the laws of the United States applicable to the vehicle at the time of its initial sale.

You might need to discover whether your '69 truck was originally equipped with lap belts.
 
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:42 AM
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so to put legal speak into english if your truck didnt have them you dont have to put them in. but i think you truck did have them...
 
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but i think trucks were always a few years behind cars when it came to safty...
 
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ND Bill could probably tell us exactly when belts first appeared.
 
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Yeah, I have belts I guess I just need to extend them so they fit. I just can't use mine because it's to short.
 
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Originally Posted by bpounds
ND Bill could probably tell us exactly when belts first appeared.
1/1/1966: On this date, the new Fed Safety Standard Laws went into effect for passenger cars.

The following, optional on most cars prior to 1/1/1966, were now standard equipment:

Backup lights, left hand outside mirror, heater and defroster, lap seat belts.

The Fed Safety Standards applied to light trucks beginning with model year 1967 (circa 9/1966).

Shoulder belts were offered for the first time in 1968...as an option for cars/light trucks.

I forget what year passenger cars had shoulder belts as standard equipment. I could search thru the parts catalogs, but...since it's not relevant, I'm not gonna bother.

Shoulder belts became standard equipment on light trucks on 1/1/1977.

Light trucks: F100/350's, Econolines, Bronco's. Ranchero's were not considered light trucks, since they were built from passenger cars (station wagons).

btw: The feds have mandated that used seat belts must NOT be sold. In fact, it's a felony! I kid you not.

Pick-a-part type junkyards that are readily available to the general public are supposed to cut the belts, so they cannot be used.

This is also the case for junkyards not accessible to the public.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The Fed Safety Standards applied to light trucks beginning with model year 1967 (circa 9/1966).

Well, there ya go. We knew we could count on you.


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btw: The feds have mandated that used seat belts must NOT be sold. In fact, it's a felony! I kid you not.

So, does that mean they have to give them away gratis? What if you damage one? Are you supposed to junk the car because the belt is broken? They even sell those little cutter tools so you can extricate yourself in case of an accident.

I don't understand the purpose of this, or how one works around it.

I guess there's always the handyman's secret weapon, duct tape.
 
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i think you just have to buy new ones when you need to get them. and i bet that is why they charge so much for new ones too because you cant get used ones.
 
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btw: The feds have mandated that used seat belts must NOT be sold. In fact, it's a felony! I kid you not.

Oh, duh, now I feel stupid.
 
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So, does that mean they have to give them away gratis? No.

What if you damage one?
You replace it with a new one. If it cannot be bought from a dealer because the part is obsolete, then you're prolly SOL.

Are you supposed to junk the car because the belt is broken? See above.

They even sell those little cutter tools so you can extricate yourself in case of an accident.

I don't understand the purpose of this, or how one works around it.
Complain to the Gov't, this is their doing.

I guess there's always the handyman's secret weapon, duct tape.
(sigh)

Don't look at me...it's not my mandate....blame it on the NHTSA.

All I did was type the info.

Y'all know of course that Congress is investigating trucks that have been lifted, as some people have written their congresspersons stating that that they are unsafe (and prolly adding something about the headlights lighting up the tops of redwood trees! ).

Just wait till whatever law they pass that affects lifts comes along!
 
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Yeah, I have belts I guess I just need to extend them so they fit. I just can't use mine because it's to short.
I'm 6-5 345, the seat belts used in these trucks fit my girth.

So what's the problemo with the belts on your truck? Could it have something to do with your user name? (i.e. You make me look like Billy Barty!).

Ford offers FREE seat belt extenders, the same ones fit many different years.

However, there are THREE different types, it depends on who manufactured the seat belts.

Look on the belt for the woven on tag...it has the seat belt manufacture listed on it...then post the info...I'll give you the seat belt extender part number.
 
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ok bill this is what i can get off mine...

DAAL (missing letters?)ALTIES LIMITED

does ford offer extenders for mine?
 
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Originally Posted by BradyCouchman
ok bill this is what i can get off mine...

DAAL (missing letters?)ALTIES LIMITED

does ford offer extenders for mine?
Why the hell would you need them, you're Billy Barty sized!

Sorry Brady, I couldn't resist!

Here's the info:

E3FZ61611C22A .. Seat Belt Extension / Use with belts manufactured by: Robbins or Allied Chemical Co.

E3FZ61611C22B .. Seat Belt Extension / Use with belts manufactured by Firestone, Hamill, or Decor Division.

E2VZ54611C22C .. Seat Belt Extension / Use with belts manufactured by American Safety Co.

I don't see a manufacturer with the name you typed. Are your seatbelts genuine Ford...or something else?
 


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