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Old 07-04-2009, 12:23 AM
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that cleared some things up for me thanks. Where is the gvw located? is it a sticker on the body or a tag on the door or is it indicated by numbers or letters in the vin?
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:26 AM
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that cleared some things up for me thanks. Where is the gvw located? is it a sticker on the body or a tag on the door or is it indicated by numbers or letters in the vin?
The GVW (which stands for Gross Vechile Weight.) Is located on the little Warrenty Plate on the driver side door,along with the VIN and other info.(paint codes,etc...)
And you can also tell the GVW by looking at the VIN (which has the truck series in the first 3 letters.
Examples:
F35= F-350 (1 ton)
F25= F-250 (3/4 ton.)
F15= F-150 (first year for F-150 was 1975,due to smog emsions) (heavier half ton)
F10= F-100 (half ton)
If you see X instead of F that truck is a Super-Cab.
Like X25= F-250 Super-Cab.(first year for Super-Cab is '74,a Super-Cab is what Ford Calls their extened cab trucks.)
I'M not home right now,Other-wise I would link you to pictures for reference,if ya want when I get home I will get you the GVW of each seires.
Also,GVW is the combined weight you can haul and or tow (meaning like my trucks GVW is 10K so I can't hual or tow anything that makes the truck and what I'M haulin' more than 10K,Basiclly combined vechile wieght of the truck,and anything your hauling,towing,etc....
Hope you understand what I'M saying.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:45 AM
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The GVW (which stands for Gross Vechile Weight.) Is located on the little Warrenty Plate on the driver side door,along with the VIN and other info.(paint codes,etc...)
And you can also tell the GVW by looking at the VIN (which has the truck series in the first 3 letters.
Examples:
F35= F-350 (1 ton)
F25= F-250 (3/4 ton.)
F15= F-150 (first year for F-150 was 1975,due to smog emsions) (heavier half ton)
F10= F-100 (half ton)
If you see X instead of F that truck is a Super-Cab.
Like X25= F-250 Super-Cab.(first year for Super-Cab is '74,a Super-Cab is what Ford Calls their extened cab trucks.)
I'M not home right now,Other-wise I would link you to pictures for reference,if ya want when I get home I will get you the GVW of each seires.
Also,GVW is the combined weight you can haul and or tow (meaning like my trucks GVW is 10K so I can't hual or tow anything that makes the truck and what I'M haulin' more than 10K,Basiclly combined vechile wieght of the truck,and anything your hauling,towing,etc....
Hope you understand what I'M saying.
It would also help if you posted 4x4 GVW codes instead of 4x2 codes like you did above.
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Old 07-04-2009, 06:23 AM
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Yeah and you would have different options available on different years.
it also depends on what trim package you have...(Interior options,I mean) (And outside trim)
The trim packages where:
Custom
Explorer
Ranger
Ranger-XLT (Top of the line from '70-'77)
Then in '78 The Lariat Ranger Came out...
But enough on trim lines,so tell us what your dream truck would have on it,and where your at,and I can help ya look online.
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That's correct,except I believe the 351M (M stands for Modified,which I have been told was for smog equipment) Someone told me the 351M/400s where the same block.
I was told that same thing and believed it for years until a retirement dinner for the best Ford Mechanic I ever met. Since he worked as a Ford mechanic for over 40 years I tend to believe almost everything he told me. According to him the M is for Midland Texas where it was made. The 351M is the truck version of a 351, as such it is taller and will NOT fit in most cars (I wanted to put one I got cheap in a Mustang). The 351W was made in Windsor Ontario Canada, and the 351C was made in Cleveland Ohio, Both were made for cars and will not last as long in a truck. I believe him because I got 350K out of a 351M in a bronco, but the 351C I replaced it with only lasted about 60K. I don't know if the 351 and the 400 are exactly the same block but MOST parts will interchange.
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If you want an "off the shelf" rugged 4x4 just get a 73-77.5 f250 4x4 i.e. highboy, it already sits up high (can run 35's with no problem) has a virtually bullet proof drivetrain and can take almost any abuse you through its way.
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If you want an "off the shelf" rugged 4x4 just get a 73-77.5 f250 4x4 i.e. highboy, it already sits up high (can run 35's with no problem) has a virtually bullet proof drivetrain and can take almost any abuse you through its way.
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I was told that same thing and believed it for years until a retirement dinner for the best Ford Mechanic I ever met. Since he worked as a Ford mechanic for over 40 years I tend to believe almost everything he told me. According to him the M is for Midland Texas where it was made. The 351M is the truck version of a 351, as such it is taller and will NOT fit in most cars (I wanted to put one I got cheap in a Mustang). The 351W was made in Windsor Ontario Canada, and the 351C was made in Cleveland Ohio, Both were made for cars and will not last as long in a truck. I believe him because I got 350K out of a 351M in a bronco, but the 351C I replaced it with only lasted about 60K. I don't know if the 351 and the 400 are exactly the same block but MOST parts will interchange.
first off, 351m's most certainly DO FIT IN CARS. ltds got them. amoungst others. second the M stands for MODIFIED, as in it is a DE-stroked 400, EVERY THING is the same as the 400 EXCEPT the Pistons And Crankshaft.
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If you want an "off the shelf" rugged 4x4 just get a 73-77.5 f250 4x4 i.e. highboy, it already sits up high (can run 35's with no problem) has a virtually bullet proof drivetrain and can take almost any abuse you through its way.
The same could be said for the later 4x4s minus the ground clearance advantage. Drivetrain options barely changed throughout the series. So a 'bulletproof' drivetrain could be said for any 1973/79 truck, 4x4 or 2WD. Pretty much a moot point, really.
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The same could be said for the later 4x4s minus the ground clearance advantage. Drivetrain options barely changed throughout the series. So a 'bulletproof' drivetrain could be said for any 1973/79 truck, 4x4 or 2WD. Pretty much a moot point, really.
I just don't like the reverse arched springs on the 77.5 - 79's and they sit to low for my taste, and the the 77.5 - 79's have a weaker frame so my point is not "moot".
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I just don't like the reverse arched springs on the 77.5 - 79's and they sit to low for my taste, and the the 77.5 - 79's have a weaker frame so my point is not "moot".
Weaker frame? What on Earth made you say that?
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compared to the crap on the road today any dentside can be considered bullet proof i hav been hit by a 2008 toyota camry, a 2007 chevy cobalt and an 80's civic and the civic did the most damage. it took 2 whacks with a hammer to get that dent out. the camry and the chevy pos both shattered their front ends apparently there is a something about my truck that makes people run red lights as that was how all three happened. none was over 15 mph and to give credit the civic and the camry were in the winter but the chevy guy was just an idiot. anyway my truck stiil drove away fine i wish i could say i have 4 wheel but sadly that dream has yet to come true
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That's hilarious! I've also learned from experience that you should always drive with your hitch installed in the receiver in the case of getting rear ended. lol
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I was told that same thing and believed it for years until a retirement dinner for the best Ford Mechanic I ever met. Since he worked as a Ford mechanic for over 40 years I tend to believe almost everything he told me. According to him the M is for Midland Texas where it was made. That's a load of crap! The 351M is the truck version of a 351, as such it is taller and will NOT fit in most cars (I wanted to put one I got cheap in a Mustang). The 351W was made in Windsor Ontario Canada, and the 351C was made in Cleveland Ohio, Both were made for cars and will not last as long in a truck. I believe him because I got 350K out of a 351M in a bronco, but the 351C I replaced it with only lasted about 60K. I don't know if the 351 and the 400 are exactly the same block but MOST parts will interchange.
What a load of CACA del TORO!

That so called mechanic doesn't know his *** from a hole in the ground!

There is NO SUCH THING as Midland inre to the 351M...PERIOD!

Where exactly in Midland TX is there any Ford assembly plant? There is exactly N-O-N-E = NONE!

The M stands for MODIFIED, and has since the engine debuted in the following 1975 passenger cars: LTD, Torino, Mercury Marquis, Cougar.

The 351W was used in 1975 and later Econolines, 1981 and later F150/350's and Bronco's.

The 351M used in 1975/78 was very prone to cracking cylinder heads.

Many were replaced under warranty. I'm very surprised that a mechanic that supposedly worked for Ford for 40 years wouldn't know that.

If this is the best Ford mechanic you ever met...I'd hate to see the worst one!
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