More Warranty Plate Questions...
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More Warranty Plate Questions...
Well Fellas,
I've had this SWB, 2WD, '65, F-100, 390" to a T-18 to a 9" rear for over 25 years. It appeared to me that a previous owner must have attached a '63 front clip, because it had a '63 front-end, yet still had the Twin I-beam front suspension. All in all, I never took the time to look up each data point on the Warranty Tag located on the door. Well, I wrote them down and tried looking them up --- and now I'm confused.
The VIN# is: F10DD673615.
Ok, according to the info I have, this VIN indicates:
F10 = 2WD F100,
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D = indicates the assembly plant at Dallas, TX
673615 = indicates the build date of April 11965.
HOWEVER the remaining data indicates:
WB: is stamped 115 ; Now I thought the wheelbase should be 120 or 121?
Color code is: W; Fine, it is Marlin Blue.
Body code: B81; Ok, so they got the stamping backwards & transposed the normal 81B. It would indicate a '61-'66 Custom Cab, ok, the front clip does indicate traces of CC trim.
Model code: F100; correct.
Trans code: N; Ahhhh,,, what is this??? I would of expected a ' F ' for a 4-speed Manual.
Axle code: 07; I think this is correct for a 9" rearend...
GVW: 5000 ; which seems correct for a 1/2 ton with a 9" rear.
HP: 172 ; What?? I can't find this HP to match any engine in the '61 -'66 F100 truck lineup.
RPM: 4000 ; Well, from what I could determine, the only engine listed with a RPM at 4000 for '65 was the 240" 6-cylinder @ 150HP...?
DSO: Houston, TX. This makes sense.... years ago I bought it in Houston.
So -- if anyone would shed some light on my confusion regarding the WB, TRANS, HP and RPM codes, I'd be very thankful!
Thanks in Advance, Guys!
BarnieTrk
I've had this SWB, 2WD, '65, F-100, 390" to a T-18 to a 9" rear for over 25 years. It appeared to me that a previous owner must have attached a '63 front clip, because it had a '63 front-end, yet still had the Twin I-beam front suspension. All in all, I never took the time to look up each data point on the Warranty Tag located on the door. Well, I wrote them down and tried looking them up --- and now I'm confused.
The VIN# is: F10DD673615.
Ok, according to the info I have, this VIN indicates:
F10 = 2WD F100,
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D = indicates the assembly plant at Dallas, TX
673615 = indicates the build date of April 11965.
HOWEVER the remaining data indicates:
WB: is stamped 115 ; Now I thought the wheelbase should be 120 or 121?
Color code is: W; Fine, it is Marlin Blue.
Body code: B81; Ok, so they got the stamping backwards & transposed the normal 81B. It would indicate a '61-'66 Custom Cab, ok, the front clip does indicate traces of CC trim.
Model code: F100; correct.
Trans code: N; Ahhhh,,, what is this??? I would of expected a ' F ' for a 4-speed Manual.
Axle code: 07; I think this is correct for a 9" rearend...
GVW: 5000 ; which seems correct for a 1/2 ton with a 9" rear.
HP: 172 ; What?? I can't find this HP to match any engine in the '61 -'66 F100 truck lineup.
RPM: 4000 ; Well, from what I could determine, the only engine listed with a RPM at 4000 for '65 was the 240" 6-cylinder @ 150HP...?
DSO: Houston, TX. This makes sense.... years ago I bought it in Houston.
So -- if anyone would shed some light on my confusion regarding the WB, TRANS, HP and RPM codes, I'd be very thankful!
Thanks in Advance, Guys!
BarnieTrk
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F10DD673615.
F10 F100 series truck
D 352 V8
D Dallas assembly
673615 Assembled in April of 1965
115" is a short beds wheel base for 65
W 1742A Medium Blue
B81 Blue woven plastic and blue vinyl with foam cushion A custom cab body 81 conventional gas.
N 4 speed new process 435.
07 3.25 ratio 3.3M open rear. (a 9 Inch)
5000 is the maximum weight of the vehicle allowed with cargo and passengers.
172 is the certified net horsepower... Not the 208 HP advertised onthe air cleaner.
172HP @ 4000 RPM
DSO Dallas is 61
This information is imported directly form the 1965 ford shop manual.
You may have 63 fenders and hood and lower valance but not the core support and inner aprons as they are specific to the 65 66 2 wheel drives and the eariler 2 wheel drive and later four wheel drive inner aprons will not fit the cowl of the 65 66.
Garbz
F10 F100 series truck
D 352 V8
D Dallas assembly
673615 Assembled in April of 1965
115" is a short beds wheel base for 65
W 1742A Medium Blue
B81 Blue woven plastic and blue vinyl with foam cushion A custom cab body 81 conventional gas.
N 4 speed new process 435.
07 3.25 ratio 3.3M open rear. (a 9 Inch)
5000 is the maximum weight of the vehicle allowed with cargo and passengers.
172 is the certified net horsepower... Not the 208 HP advertised onthe air cleaner.
172HP @ 4000 RPM
DSO Dallas is 61
This information is imported directly form the 1965 ford shop manual.
You may have 63 fenders and hood and lower valance but not the core support and inner aprons as they are specific to the 65 66 2 wheel drives and the eariler 2 wheel drive and later four wheel drive inner aprons will not fit the cowl of the 65 66.
Garbz
#4
B81 is correct!
B = Medium Blue Crush Vinyl & Medium Blue Ladder Pattern Woven Plastic.
81 = 81B Custom Cab
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W = Marlin Blue is the promotional name, Medium Blue is the actual color.
The 1742A that Garbz2 refers to is the Ford part number for the paint.
AE60-1742-A = 3 ounce touch up can with brush.
AE60-1742-S = 10 ounce spray can.
B = Medium Blue Crush Vinyl & Medium Blue Ladder Pattern Woven Plastic.
81 = 81B Custom Cab
---------------------
W = Marlin Blue is the promotional name, Medium Blue is the actual color.
The 1742A that Garbz2 refers to is the Ford part number for the paint.
AE60-1742-A = 3 ounce touch up can with brush.
AE60-1742-S = 10 ounce spray can.
#5
Thanks Guys for all the research assistance!
(Have I mentioned lately there are a bunch of GREAT guys on this GREAT forum!?)
Yep, I agree with you ..... a 390 was not an optional engine for a Slick.
However, when I bought the truck, the previous owner told me the engine was changed to a 390, then I confirmed it was a 390 when I rebuilt it 1997. I had hoped this issue would not cloud my Warranty Plate question, but because I list the truck in my Signature Header as having a 390, I mentioned in the post in order to match what it currently is - and to match my Sig Header - which is that it currently has a 390 mill.
VERY INTERESTING, GARBZ!!
So:
115" = wheelbase is correct.
N = a new process 435 4 speed. (Interesting.....So that too was changed prior to me; because I know it's a T-18 since I pulled it to get freshened back in '87 and ' T-18 ' was/is cast into the side of the case).
172 = is NET HP for the 352".
07 = is indeed the axle code for a 9" rear end housing.
Lastly, it's also interesting & good information regarding the specific inner body panels which must NOT have been changed when the outer sheet metal was changed.
Thanks for the clarification on the Body code and color info, Bill!
I'm thinking the color part number and actual color name may be helpful when it comes time to color match the ol' Dude.
Well, Fellas,,,, I will take this all info and transfer it into my TRUCK Journal notes to have & to hold.
THANKS AGAIN FOR CLEARING UP THESE QUESTIONS FOR ME, GUYS!!!
BarnieTrk
(Have I mentioned lately there are a bunch of GREAT guys on this GREAT forum!?)
However, when I bought the truck, the previous owner told me the engine was changed to a 390, then I confirmed it was a 390 when I rebuilt it 1997. I had hoped this issue would not cloud my Warranty Plate question, but because I list the truck in my Signature Header as having a 390, I mentioned in the post in order to match what it currently is - and to match my Sig Header - which is that it currently has a 390 mill.
F10DD673615.
F10 F100 series truck
D 352 V8
D Dallas assembly
673615 Assembled in April of 1965
115" is a short beds wheel base for 65
W 1742A Medium Blue
B81 Blue woven plastic and blue vinyl with foam cushion A custom cab body 81 conventional gas.
N 4 speed new process 435.
07 3.25 ratio 3.3M open rear. (a 9 Inch)
5000 is the maximum weight of the vehicle allowed with cargo and passengers.
172 is the certified net horsepower... Not the 208 HP advertised onthe air cleaner.
172HP @ 4000 RPM
DSO Dallas is 61
This information is imported directly form the 1965 ford shop manual.
You may have 63 fenders and hood and lower valance but not the core support and inner aprons as they are specific to the 65 66 2 wheel drives and the eariler 2 wheel drive and later four wheel drive inner aprons will not fit the cowl of the 65 66. Garbz
F10 F100 series truck
D 352 V8
D Dallas assembly
673615 Assembled in April of 1965
115" is a short beds wheel base for 65
W 1742A Medium Blue
B81 Blue woven plastic and blue vinyl with foam cushion A custom cab body 81 conventional gas.
N 4 speed new process 435.
07 3.25 ratio 3.3M open rear. (a 9 Inch)
5000 is the maximum weight of the vehicle allowed with cargo and passengers.
172 is the certified net horsepower... Not the 208 HP advertised onthe air cleaner.
172HP @ 4000 RPM
DSO Dallas is 61
This information is imported directly form the 1965 ford shop manual.
You may have 63 fenders and hood and lower valance but not the core support and inner aprons as they are specific to the 65 66 2 wheel drives and the eariler 2 wheel drive and later four wheel drive inner aprons will not fit the cowl of the 65 66. Garbz
So:
115" = wheelbase is correct.
N = a new process 435 4 speed. (Interesting.....So that too was changed prior to me; because I know it's a T-18 since I pulled it to get freshened back in '87 and ' T-18 ' was/is cast into the side of the case).
172 = is NET HP for the 352".
07 = is indeed the axle code for a 9" rear end housing.
Lastly, it's also interesting & good information regarding the specific inner body panels which must NOT have been changed when the outer sheet metal was changed.
B81 is correct!
B = Medium Blue Crush Vinyl & Medium Blue Ladder Pattern Woven Plastic.
81 = 81B Custom Cab
---------------------
W = Marlin Blue is the promotional name, Medium Blue is the actual color.
The 1742A that Garbz2 refers to is the Ford part number for the paint.
AE60-1742-A = 3 ounce touch up can with brush.
AE60-1742-S = 10 ounce spray can.
B = Medium Blue Crush Vinyl & Medium Blue Ladder Pattern Woven Plastic.
81 = 81B Custom Cab
---------------------
W = Marlin Blue is the promotional name, Medium Blue is the actual color.
The 1742A that Garbz2 refers to is the Ford part number for the paint.
AE60-1742-A = 3 ounce touch up can with brush.
AE60-1742-S = 10 ounce spray can.
I'm thinking the color part number and actual color name may be helpful when it comes time to color match the ol' Dude.
Well, Fellas,,,, I will take this all info and transfer it into my TRUCK Journal notes to have & to hold.
THANKS AGAIN FOR CLEARING UP THESE QUESTIONS FOR ME, GUYS!!!
BarnieTrk
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BarnieTrk
#7
DSO 62 = Houston TX Ford District Sales Zone Office.
DSO 61 = Dallas TX.
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