You'll definitely notice a difference, and while you don't NEED to get your tunes reburned, the ones on your DP are setup with your 15* pump in mind. Keep in mind that the HPOP supplies volume to allow for higher & more consistent ICP pressures. It's the ECM or tuner piggy-backed on to it that calls for a particular pressure. Here's my findings:
I have a late 99 7.3 and had a strong 17* pump (ask Clay - it's in his truck now).
My ICP pressures with pre & post Adrenaline were exactly the same. I had an F5 DP Tuner in the truck for this testing, but it was ordered with the stock HPOP in mind.
I ordered a chip from PHP next. Results are that the truck runs smoother, better, has more consistent power and blows very little smoke. PHP knew about the Adrenaline and it's capabilities when they setup my chip, so it calls for higher pressures.
Going to the Adrenaline would be good. New tunes are not needed, but will give a little extra on top of what you get from just the HPOP change. And as always, whether it's PHP, DP, or TW, live-tuning is hands-down the best.
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1999 F250 CC SB 4x4 7.3 PSD named "Nyx"
BTS VB;6637;A-pillar (pyro, boost, trans temp);XM radio;Alpine CDA-9831 w/RCA inputs;Leveling kit;Adrenaline HPOP;UnderCover tonneau cover;05 headlights
LMAO- Ya know how long it's been since I hear of BOOSHT LOL!!!! Good find Crazy!
Joe- so you think if I get my hands on a van turbo, I should keep the 1.15??
Yes you should keep the 1.15. It'll be better for what you're wanting to do in the long run.
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I think I am going to get an adrenaline HPOP. From what I have heard from others that have it, that it makes a difference. It is not much more than a new 17* HPOP so why not? My 15* is fine, but I think I could unlock some hidden power there. I will report my findings.
That's great idea and you're right, they are not really much more than a stock 17*. It'll be a vast improvement to the one you've got now and will support some single shot injectors someday. We just didn't want you to go out and buy one as a fix to the low boost issue. But now that that is fixed, then one to making that thing run even better!!
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Here is the update. I am still having the same issues; low boost (12 lbs max on stock or DP tune settings) high EGT's and lots of black smoke. I have pressure tested the system and it is holding 30 lbs pretty good, there is a small leak right around the temp sensor. So my question is, could it be the turbo or the wastegate? How do I check to see what it could be? The wastegate has some play, should it be tight?
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Early 1999 F350 PSD: CC, longbed, 4X4. 6 spd. Mods: DP Tuner 40tow/60tow/80econ, Pilar Gauges, 6637 Air Filter, 4 inch exhaust, Late 99-03 upgraded turbo setup with an ATS 1.0 AR exhaust housing, EBPV and AIH delete, 6.0 IC, Adrenaline HPOP
Here is the update. I am still having the same issues; low boost (12 lbs max on stock or DP tune settings) high EGT's and lots of black smoke. I have pressure tested the system and it is holding 30 lbs pretty good, there is a small leak right around the temp sensor. So my question is, could it be the turbo or the wastegate? How do I check to see what it could be? The wastegate has some play, should it be tight?
Yes, it should be tight. If it is not snug then you are bleeding off boost from the start and it is opening completely way to early. Tighten it up and you should be golden.
Yep -- there's your problem... You're leaking a bunch of your drive pressure right around the wheel! Snug it down tight (I'd just take it all the way down if I were you) and you'll be good. I have heard that the wastegate rod requires adjustment when the ported housing goes on more than once now. I have a non-wastegated exhaust housing, so I never saw that issue.
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Is it possible to get it that tight with the turbo on the truck?
Possible, but a PITA... Just depends on how you want to go about it. Take the rod off and adjust it then put it back on. I have done this and sometimes it's not bad, and sometimes I wish I had just taken the turbo off. Don't lose the clip....
Its easiest to adjust the wastegate actuator by removing it from the turbo- 2 10mm nuts and a clip that, like Clay said, you need to be careful not to lose.
FYI, you can get a modded 17° HPOP from Joey at Terminator Engineering for about 1/2 of what the Adrenaline costs.
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1999 F250 PSD CC SB 4x4 - his
2000 Explorer XLT 4x4 - hers
PAA Member #2 God speed Markadeck, you will be missed ThumperTalk / All Things Moto! / SnoWest / SAWS / BRC
If you have access to compressed air you can adjust the WG rod while on the truck.
The use of compressed air makes it easy to extend the rod to get it back onto the WG lever.
I set mine to open at 12 psi.
That makes for some very good spool up and the boost maxes out at 25 psi - good for my stock turbo.
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1999 F550 4x4 ZF6 pulling a Cedar Creek 36RLTS. Lotta mods.
1999 VW Jetta TDI 5speed stick, all stock.
1996 Audi A4 Quattro. Unstoppable in the snow and ice. God and Dog
Okay I just got back from a test drive after I tightened the wastegate actuator rod. It is boosting up to 20 lbs now, but I am still have high EGT's and a lot of black smoke. I am starting to wonder if the 4 inch compressor housing and compressor wheel is too big for my stock injectors to spool. Any ideas? I did have Jody tune my tuner for the adrenaline, so is the high EGT's and black smoke due to the 15* HPOP and tunes set for the adrenaline? I have not put the adrenaline in yet. I figured I better figure this problem out first.
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Early 1999 F350 PSD: CC, longbed, 4X4. 6 spd. Mods: DP Tuner 40tow/60tow/80econ, Pilar Gauges, 6637 Air Filter, 4 inch exhaust, Late 99-03 upgraded turbo setup with an ATS 1.0 AR exhaust housing, EBPV and AIH delete, 6.0 IC, Adrenaline HPOP
The tunes won't change for the 15° or Adrenaline pump, I'm betting you still have a leak somewhere.
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Chase
1999 F250 PSD CC SB 4x4 - his
2000 Explorer XLT 4x4 - hers
PAA Member #2 God speed Markadeck, you will be missed ThumperTalk / All Things Moto! / SnoWest / SAWS / BRC
I think it might be the driver side up pipe. I can twist the pipe. Would one leaking up pipe make that much difference in boost?
Did you get this fixed?
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1999 F550 4x4 ZF6 pulling a Cedar Creek 36RLTS. Lotta mods.
1999 VW Jetta TDI 5speed stick, all stock.
1996 Audi A4 Quattro. Unstoppable in the snow and ice. God and Dog
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