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Old 07-02-2009, 05:43 AM
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OK I need some help figureing out what speakers I need

Ok new question... How the hell do I know what is a decent speaker for the money. Im looking at onlinecarstereo.com and there are tons and tons of speakers. I want a direct replacement so I can just bolt them in and go. I guess that means I need a 6x8

OK. There are 260 watt 3 way speakers for $39/pair, then there are 240 watt 3 way for $55/pair, then there are 120 watt 3 way speakers for $64/pair, the most expensive speakers are 150 watt 2 way speakers at $99/pair.

why is a 150 watt, 2 way speaker so much more than a 260 watt 3 way??? I don't know what any of this means. Im electronically ignorant, my vcr still flashes 12:00. please help me.

I have a factory stereo/cd player in my 99 F250 SD. I don't want to add an amp. I just want to pop off my door panels and throw in some better speakers.

Right now I have my bass turned almost all the way down and as soon as I turn my stereo up over 1/3 of the way up the speakers rattle and sound like ****!!

I don't want to spend $200 on 4 speakers that are way more than I can use with my stock power output and I don't want to spend $80 on 4 speakers that are ok when I could have spent $100 and gotten something much better. I just want some decent sound quality... Please help!!

Here is a link to the ALL THE OVERWHELMING CHOICES I HAVE:
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...ShowAll=False&


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i have a hard time buying speakers too, everytime i do i cant hear the people singing its always the music drownding out the vocals.. can somone suggest a non rap music speaker setup for old guys that like non rap music type


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Well, since you don't plan on running an amp, it's a little easier. Figure your radio has a max wattage of 45w. You want to find a speaker that runs not too far from it. The spec's I would look for would be 25-45w RMS, 89-91sn, ~4ohm, and good range.
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I'm a big fan of Infinity Reference speakers. They sound great and aren't too hard on the wallet. My current set is Polk db571's and I wish I had got the Infinities (had 6 in my previous car). Do yourself a favor and get 6.5" round speakers instead of 6x8 like the stockers, round speakers reproduce sound more accurately.

Also, onlinecarstereo.com SUCKS! Most of their items are backordered and you don't know that until you place the order. I usually go Crutchfield, but if you want to save some dough, I've had good luck with hookedontronics.com and they have great prices.
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Thanks for the help guys!! Im looking around crutchfield too. What does the 2 way vs. 3 way speaker mean?? What does a 3 way do that a 2 way dosn't ????

ReAX, you're saying I shouldn't waste my money going with something that handles alot of power since I won't be pushing it with an amp?? correct?

So a speaker that costs.. maybe.. $65/pair (middle of the pack) that handles less power might be a better quality speaker for my stock stereo?? Example: infinity reference 6822cf, RMS is 2-60 watts and peak is 180 watts, for the same price soundstream XT 683s is 200 watts RMS. would the infinity be a better speaker for me??

There are just too many to choose from... and I don't understand what all the different numbers and figures mean..

Feel free to look over the list and pick out a decent speaker for me. Im free to suggestions...
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Hey ReAX, One more question, what does 89-91sn mean?? and how do I tell what the range is, is that the "frequency response" as listed in these speaker adds??

thanks alot I appreciate the help..
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2 way speakers have a woofer (say 100hz to 1200hz) driver and a tweeter to make the speakers range, call it 100hz-20kHz. 3way speakers have an extra driver so each speaker in the package has less range and can be made to better perform in that range.

If your not going to provide the power the speaker wants, then it's not going to preform at it's optimal level. Matching your power to the speakers desires will yield a better a match.

Sn is signal to noise. The higher the better. I think it goes 91db of signal to 1db of noise produced by the speaker. So the more music you get with less trash being produced by the speaker.

Frequency range is usually marked in Hz or kHz (hertz through kilohertz.) Human hearing is said to be 20Hz through 20kHz. However gear heads and shooters don't have great hearing in the upper end.
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so would this be a decent choice?

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=18387

Or something closer to the 45 watt radio output like this:

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=20482

Or something like this, its a little higher price but the max power range is way higher than I need. I just dont want to go to low and end up with the speaker distortion that I have now.

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=19137
Ok im done posting, I will wait for some answers. sorry...
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The first link is strange, but the second two are the same product.

I don't think those are going to get very loud, but they should sound pretty decent. And that's where the power (wattage) comes in. When the speaker needs 70w peak, if you can't produce it, then the speaker will not get as loud as it can. If your peaking at 35watts, then the speaker can only do a peak of 35watts of work which is half the peak volume of the speaker. I don't know a whole lot about speaker design so most that was supposition from observations.

Watt is a unit of work not really of power as you think of voltage or current (amps). The speakers can do 70watts of work peak if you supply 70watts worth of voltage and current.
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The first link is strange, but the second two are the same product.

I don't think those are going to get very loud, but they should sound pretty decent. And that's where the power (wattage) comes in. When the speaker needs 70w peak, if you can't produce it, then the speaker will not get as loud as it can. If your peaking at 35watts, then the speaker can only do a peak of 35watts of work which is half the peak volume of the speaker. I don't know a whole lot about speaker design so most that was supposition from observations.

Watt is a unit of work not really of power as you think of voltage or current (amps). The speakers can do 70watts of work peak if you supply 70watts worth of voltage and current.
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so the peak power of this stock radio is around 45 watts per speaker?? then I would be better off sticking to a lower wattage speaker that is a decent quality??
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I'm decent only with the theory, speaker specs are half fact and half advertisement. Going off the specs I would guess the kicker 07ds680 would be better match to your stock headunit.
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Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it...
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ReAX, the 89-91 dB rating number on speakers is sensitivity, not signal to noise. Its a rating on how much sound volume you get with a given power input. With stock stereo, you'll want higher sensitivity speakers so they are more efficient. 3 way speakers aren't necessary for anything smaller than 6.5" in my opinion, its just marketing. There's no need for a 3-way until your up to a 7-8" woofer. High end audio setups often use a 3-way component setup with a 8" woofer, 3.5-5" midrange, and a tweeter. I would strongly recommend these speakers:

http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_...&brandtype=232
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http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_...&brandtype=232

Same ones at Crutchfield which will include harness adapters for your vehicle:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1086022...2i.html?tp=105
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http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1086822...cf.html?tp=105

I would go with the round 6.5" for better sound reproduction, but for an easier install go with the 6x8 and you probably won't notice a difference in quality.
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can you speak in speaker retard so i can understand what your talking about?
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This is. Do some searching on loud speaker design, but have some tylenol handy.

Sensitivity=High the better
Power should be close to what you can provide for it.
Ohms, not terribly important because of a lack of choice out side of subwoofers. (but can become important factory amplified systems.)
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