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Old 06-30-2009, 07:13 PM
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Talking Electric cooling fan??

Hello all! I have been thinming about adding an electric cooling fan or fans in front of the radiator on my truck. I just want to use the electric as supplemenatl cooling only. Been thinking about this for a while and was wondering if any of you have any suggestions of which brand (and maybe model#) i should use. i would install these on a switch in the cab and turn them on when i am doing some heavy pulling in the summer months. Also by the way Matt of Spartan, I did all the upgrades you suggested plus some of my own ideas. Yes me and my machine shop are very close friends. We did ALOT of machining!!!! All I say is thanks again!.. So does anyone have any suggestions???? Thanks!!
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the cooling systems are very well build on those trucks, what raises tepms is your EGR system. get rid of it and your truck will thank you for it. and give it a freeflowing exhaust system. other than that you will be fine, trans cooler is huge too so no worries there. a lot of 7.3 guys are installing the 6.0 coolers for that reason....
BTW what mods you have on your truck- you dont want to run hot tunning while pulling, you want to run Tow tun if any...

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Hello all! I have been thinming about adding an electric cooling fan or fans in front of the radiator on my truck. I just want to use the electric as supplemenatl cooling only. Been thinking about this for a while and was wondering if any of you have any suggestions of which brand (and maybe model#) i should use. i would install these on a switch in the cab and turn them on when i am doing some heavy pulling in the summer months. Also by the way Matt of Spartan, I did all the upgrades you suggested plus some of my own ideas. Yes me and my machine shop are very close friends. We did ALOT of machining!!!! All I say is thanks again!.. So does anyone have any suggestions???? Thanks!!
I have come out of the rock quarry with my dump trailer at GCVW of 22-23,000 lbs and never had a problem.
Maybe you would like to think about joining the CT chapter of FTE.
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I know all to well about the egr bypass.. been there, done that, wrote the book, now move on. All I want is some extra cooling that is all. Truck runs fine after I got done with all the "minor" modifications to make the engine "breath" better. As for some of the mods, well let's just say alot of time was spent in the machine shop porting, flowing, cutting, etc..... on top of the work Matt recommended (wink, wink) In a nut shell, power, torque, and reliability way up and fuel mileage went up over 4mpg. oh did I say, no codes either?? Anyway all I am looking to do is gain some additional cooling while towing. I tow alot.Figure the more air I can force thru the radiator before the clutch fan decides to kick in, the better cooling I would have and the cooler the intercooler would be as well. Every little gain makes a big difference when all little gains are added up. One of the trailer has a GVW of 30,000 lbs. I am in the generator reconditioning and service business (my own business) and we use this truck at times to do "road trips" to either deliver or buy or combo there of, of generators. But it spends most of its time pulling our 40' toy hauler.
CT chapter of FTE? CT as in Connecticut?
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Yes Connecticut, here's the link.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum227/

Are you in CT ?
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than get a pushing fan, there is plenty of room between the grill and radiator, so you should have plenty of space to play with. any high CFM fan will help you a lot.
i see you have done a lot to it allready.
and you correct about CT
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Yes I am in CT. Lisbon to be exact. Pete I see you have the Magnaflow Dual exhaust. Same one I started with. But now it is a free flow. No cat, muffler. We made our own connector pipe out of stainless. Also I started with a SCT but Matt did some "tuning" to it for what I do. I did the head studs, o ringed the heads, copper head gaskets, took .011 off the heads, ported the heads, intake, induction,, EGR bypass, ported and flowed the exhaust manifolds, ported and flowed the "new" crossover pipe, cleaned up the turbo and flowed it as well. So in short, the engine breathes quite nicely. Only have a very nice well tuned tow program in it. All I can say, the truck gets attention wherever it goes. Turns heads alot, especially in campgrounds, and sounds so damn awesome when getting on it when towing. I pull our toy hauler and pass people going up hill and my egt's do not go over 1200. Again the engine "breathes"...... Remember an engine in only an air pump. More air you can get through the engine, the more it can take in. Think about that. Oh did I say I am running stock turbo and stock injectors? Again the engine "breathes".... As yes I will check out the CT site..Thanks!
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sweet deal. i have no Kitty, and straightpipe.and if money allows some time in the future ill get compounds or procharger kit...
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Whoa time out there buddy. Ease up on the 'ol pipe and quit the wink, wink, you're making me nervous.

First of all, your towing a 30,000 lbs trailer, so what truck do you have?
Second, you spent a fortune (supposedly) making the engine "breathe" but you are running stock injectors?
Thirdly, you want to install an electric cooling fan setup, even though guys putting out double the hp you are don't seem to have any cooling problems at all?
Fourth, do you have any idea the volume of air the stock fan moves when it kicks in?
Its an insane amount because it will drop your cooling temps 10 - 15 degrees, even in 110 degree ambient temps, in under a minute.
Fifth - you wrote the book on EGR deletes, really.

Now, this may all be legit, and if it is then I do apologies, but come on, really.
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I had a Chevy Tahoe I added a electric cooling fan to and it helped. I agree with everyone else that the current cooling system is excellent but I live in the west with 110 degree heat and steep grades. I believe you can never have too much cooling. When I climbed out of Grand Teton pulling my fiver last week on a 10 percent grade my oil temp went to 250 and it wasn't even hot outside. It would be nice to be able to turn on extra cooling whenever you needed it. My last electric fan was a Hayden.
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Whoa time out there buddy. Ease up on the 'ol pipe and quit the wink, wink, you're making me nervous.

First of all, your towing a 30,000 lbs trailer, so what truck do you have?
Second, you spent a fortune (supposedly) making the engine "breathe" but you are running stock injectors?
Thirdly, you want to install an electric cooling fan setup, even though guys putting out double the hp you are don't seem to have any cooling problems at all?
Fourth, do you have any idea the volume of air the stock fan moves when it kicks in?
Its an insane amount because it will drop your cooling temps 10 - 15 degrees, even in 110 degree ambient temps, in under a minute.
Fifth - you wrote the book on EGR deletes, really.

Now, this may all be legit, and if it is then I do apologies, but come on, really.
I was thinking the same thing...just glad somebody else said it before i did
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OK first of all, yes it is all legit. If you want I wouyld be happy to send you pictures and have other people contact you who have witnessed what the truck has pulled. Yes I am running stock injectors and stock turbo. ALL I WANT TO DO is get a little additional cooling. NO the engine DOES NOT run hot! I am just looking for a little extra insurance. Here in New England we have these things called mountains and I believe by adding an external electric cooling fan that i will turn manually when I am pulling heavy loads up these things called mountains, I would not have to relay on the clutch fan so much to cool the engine, trans, intercooler, etc... So by forcing some extra air into the radiator during these type of pulls on hot and humid days, I believe the engine and transmission will run a lottle cooler. Maybe not much cooler, maybe 10 deg., but maybe the engine and trans temp will be more steady. My trans now when climbinh the mountains, 8% grade for 5 plus miles at times, hovers around 200 deg. As for the engine temp, well I need to install a real temp gauge. But weven if I can loose 10 deg., every little bit helps. So from what i am seeing here, mostly no one ever thought of running an electric fan as supplemental cooling. I did not mean that in a bad way. Nothing gained if nothing is tried. If anyone has indees run an electric cooling fan as suppelmental cooling, I would very much like to hear from you and get your opinion. As for what type of truck I an using, well its a 2004 F-350 crew cab dually. One of the trailers it pulls is a 35' flatbed, triaxle, rated for 30,000 lbs gross. I do know one time i went over a truck scale right by my business location to get an accurate weight, and I was 34, 850 lbs GCVW. which is legal. The truck did not struggle any at all. And have done this more than once. As for writing the "book", it was a figure of speach!!! I see this was a big mistake to even ask this question. All I wanted was some positive feedback and Randy 777, Pete 6.0. Thank you for your input! As for what exactly I did to the truck, well it is a long list....
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There have been numerous threads over the past years on electric fans. For our 6.0L engines, there are no "bolt ons" made by after market companies that I have ever read about. There have been folks that have "made it happen".

The reason for the responses you got:

1. We now know that you fully realize that isn't necessary under most circumstances to need extra cooling. This wasn't clear in your first post. After the 2nd or 3rd post, we fully realize you just want to, so .... good for you. Hope you hook up w/ one of the folks that have done it already.

2. There are a lot of experienced people here that have never heard of you (or the book you wrote on the EGR bypass), so now I will move on.

3. We also realize you are proud of your truck - again - good for you. But - you are not doing much to encourage help when you say rediculous things. "Things called mountains" ...... Come on - hook up an electric fan near the computer and "chill" - that is where the cooling is needed.
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The stock fan moves 10,000 cfm. Any electric fan you can find won't be near that and will probably just restrict flow of the stock fan.
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