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Old 07-02-2009, 10:45 PM
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The electrical connections only iluminated the water in fuel light when water was present in the seperator and had reached a predetermined level.

The fact the seperator is still inline is enough for air intrusion.
Many people have had sucess just shoving a bolt in the drain line after they drain it.
Mine was letting air suck in around the pull ring shaft, so the bolt did not help.
Removing it from the truck took care of the problem though.
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The electrical connections only iluminated the water in fuel light when water was present in the seperator and had reached a predetermined level.

The fact the seperator is still inline is enough for air intrusion.
Many people have had sucess just shoving a bolt in the drain line after they drain it.
Mine was letting air suck in around the pull ring shaft, so the bolt did not help.
Removing it from the truck took care of the problem though.

Damn now i am glad i dont have one in the truck, one more thing to remove and toss in the garbage!
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Wreckinball, the water seperator I was talking about was on the 86 and earlier trucks.
In 87 they went to the water seperator/filter combined unit which works much better.

I know yours is a mut, but which fiter system do you have?
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Oh come on now Dave, you know i dont have one! I am a rebel. I have a racor with the bottom separator on order and it should be here soon so we will see. It was funny too i looked for the longest time finally coming to the realization that i dont have one! hahaha. Probably help with the starting and overall operability. Thoughts on that?

Oh and please reply to this just real quick then we can get back on topic.
Why would i have a drop of oil on the tip air filter assembley bolt? It is always there and might explain why it smokes a bit! I dont have the knowledge to pull all of that off to check it, help bro!
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Wreckingball, Service your CDR or replace if failed.

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Old 07-03-2009, 06:56 PM
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The CDR is where the oil is from.
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whew, well three blisters and a sore back later i got it out, cleaned and back in. All of the smoke i burned off with a trip down the road but now i see my beasts true colors. I think the pump is turned up too high because it is some blck smoke coming out now and not blue. I really dont want to crack the IP open but i may just have to. Can you fellas link me to the instructions on that one, the search function is killing me!
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I can't find a link, but it's easy...

On the passenger side of the IP is a triangle plate with 2 bolts.
Place a rag or something under it to catch the fuel when you remove that cover. (~1 pint) (~ (tilde) = Approximately)
Look through the cover and rotate the motor until you see the adjustment screw (I believe it's TDC #1).
With a 5/32" allen wrench turn the screw in for more, out for less.
Use the flats of the allen to track changes... ie: 1/2 flat, 1 flat... etc...

Replace the cover and test run!

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Ok. I checked and changed my fuel filter today. When I removed the filter is was completely full. So I guess I am not getting air intrusion after all, at least enough to make any difference at the fuel filter. Any other ideas what would make it essentially starve for fuel after 5 seconds of running?
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That was after setting all night???

Hmmm...

Are you after glowing your manual GP's???

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Yes, the truck sat for about 12-14 hours over night, and the filter was chock full of fuel.

No, I am not afterglowing the plugs. I guess I could do that, or hold the GP's on just a little longer, perhaps 8 seconds in the summertime.
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If it starts quickly your initial times may be fine, however you likely do need to after glow a couple time for a few seconds.

Someone with a manual setup could answer that better, I know my '86 does it when it needs it! Before or after starting.

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my manual set up is simple, hold for 5 seconds and turn it over for two to three seconds, it wont start the first time. glow again for three to five seconds and kaboom it is alive and well. no need for after glow. I love my beast!!!
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I can't find a link, but it's easy...

On the passenger side of the IP is a triangle plate with 2 bolts.
Place a rag or something under it to catch the fuel when you remove that cover. (~1 pint) (~ (tilde) = Approximately)
Look through the cover and rotate the motor until you see the adjustment screw (I believe it's TDC #1).
With a 5/32" allen wrench turn the screw in for more, out for less.
Use the flats of the allen to track changes... ie: 1/2 flat, 1 flat... etc...

Replace the cover and test run!

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Well if that is all there is to it then i might try. I have rewired the GP's and installed a manual switch, serviced the CDR, re done the intake, etc etc, i just need to do it and stop worrying. so for rolling the engine, socket on the main pulley? and for turning the fuel down.......clockwise or counterclockwise? When i turn it down, how will i know when it is good but enough to keep it alive? Will i notice a loss in power? Right now it is quick for a three ton beast non turbo'd. If i threw on a turbo i would be killing the road!
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In = CW = More Fuel.
Out = CCW = Less fuel.

Back if off till it quits smoking black. I'd say 1/2 to 1 flat to start with.

Don't worry about backing it off to far, nothing bad will happen other than it will loose power, but that'll take more than a flat or two below black smoke.

When turning up a Diesel, once it starts smoking black you are doing nothing but wasting fuel. So just under black smoke is where you want to be!
Vapor Trails is all you should see.

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