I have a 2008 V-10 F-250 SD company truck. It came with the AM/FM 2 speaker system. I found a AM/FM/CD mp3 head unit and installed it and it plays well considering I have only 2 front speakers. I checked the rear speaker ports and found they were pre-wired for speakers so I got a set of OEM speakers and plugged them in. I set the head unit to play front and rear and then rear only but still am getting no sound from the rear speakers. It appears the speaker wires were never terminated to the radio plug and I don't see any laying around in the dash. It seems if Ford would go to the trouble to run the wires to the rear speakers they would have been terminated at the radio plug. Evidently, this is not the case.
Does anyone know where I should look for the dash end of the rear speaker wiring harness? I would really like to get the rear speakers working.
I would look at the kick panels. Ford puts a lot of connectors behind the trim there and you can usually find speaker wires in there. It's possible they aren't plugged in, but its equally possible that your missing the harness for the radio to kick panel.
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Audio/Mobile Video
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery WHITE/RED (+) RADIO HARNESS
Accesory BLUE (+) RADIO HARNESS
Ground BLACK/BLUE (-) RADIO HARNESS
Illumination VIOLET/GRAY (+) RADIO HARNESS
Amp Turn On VIOLET/RED (+) RADIO HARNESS
LF Speaker (+) WHITE
LF Speaker (-) WHITE/BROWN
RF Speaker (+) WHITE/VIOLET
RF Speaker (-) WHITE/ORANGE
LR Speaker (+) WHITE/GREEN
LR Speaker (-) BROWN/YELLOW
RR Speaker (+) BROWN/WHITE
RR Speaker (-) BROWN/BLUE
Steering Cntrls OPTIONAL
Radio Security YES
This is for a F350, but it should be very similar.
Thanks for the info. I had this same schematic and verified the rear speaker wires colors matched. I'll probably need to pull the radio again and look but it appeared the wires never made it as far as the radio plug.
I found the right rear speaker wires end at a plug behind the front passenger kick panel so I assume it's tha same way on the drivers side. If I could find the pins for the plugs and knew which terminals on the back of the radio to use I'd be in business.
Anyone know which terminals on the rear of the radio are for the L&R rear speakers?
Anyone know if the pins are available for purchase?
Unless your absolutely trying to stay OEM all the way...
It maybe less of a headache to use off-the-shelf components. If you have access to a Delphi-Packard type (barrel) or a "Weatherpak" crimper it maybe worthwhile.
There are a few sites that offer "universal-use" hoods and pins for individual consumer purchase.
Metra and Schosche should also carry the male and female speaker termination ends (I know Metra did last year). So they might be another option. The pigtail ends usually run about 4-6bux ea. I had a listing somewhere of OEM speaker components from these people-I'll look when I can.
Motorcraft also carries some of the pigtail ends...
Do you by chance see a number on the existing plugs that are behind your kick-panels?
TOP ROW
YELLOW 12V. CONSTANT
RED 12V. ACCESSORY
ORANGE / WHITE STRIPE (+) ILLUMINATION
ORANGE / BLACK STRIPE (-) ILLUMINATION
BLUE / RED STRIPE PAEN (US), AUD. SYSON (MAZDA)
BLACK / GREEN STRIPE GROUND (MAURADER), CLOCK (OTHERS)
BLACK / YELLOW STRIPE PTA (EXPEDITION)
WHITE LEFT FRONT SPEAKER (+)
GREEN LEFT REAR SPEAKER (+)
PURPLE RIGHT REAR SPEAKER (+)
GRAY RIGHT FRONT SPEAKER (+)
GRAY / BLACK STRIPE RIGHT FRONT SPEAKER (-)
BOTTOM ROW
BLACK GROUND
GRAY / RED STRIPE VSS (+)
RED / WHITE STRIPE 12V. IN START
YELLOW / ORANGE STRIPE NO FUNCTION
YELLOW / BLUE STRIPE NO FUNCTION
GREEN / RED STRIPE STEERING WHEEL CONTROL (+)
GREEN / WHITE STRIPE STEERING WHEEL CONTROL (-) (EXPEDITION)
BROWN / RED STRIPE REAR PARKING AID (EXPEDITION)
WHITE / BLACK STRIPE LEFT FRONT SPEAKER (-)
GREEN / BLACK STRIPE LEFT REAR SPEAKER (-)
PURPLE / BLACK STRIPE RIGHT REAR SPEAKER (-)
BLACK / GRAY STRIPE GROUND
I know you probably don't need it but here are the other plugs that maybe on other F250/350s- For reference:
16 PIN WIRE COLORS / FUNCTIONS:
TOP ROW
TAN DVD SIGNAL LEFT (+)
LIGHT BLUE DVD SIGNAL LEFT (-)
GREEN / BLACK STRIPE SHIELD
BLACK NO FUNCTION
WHITE NO FUNCTION
BLACK AUDIO SYSTEM ON
GRAY / RED STRIPE AUDIO CORP. PROTOCOL A
VIOLET / BLACK STRIPE AUDIO CORP. PROTOCOL B
BOTTOM ROW
PINK DVD SIGNAL RIGHT (+)
GRAY / WHITE STRIPE DVD SIGNAL RIGHT (-)
GREEN / ORANGE STRIPE NO FUNCTION
BLACK NO FUNCTION
BROWN / RED STRIPE NO FUNCTION
BLUE / RED STRIPE NO FUNCTION
ORANGE / BLACK STRIPE NO FUNCTION
GRAY NO FUNCTION
8 PIN WIRE COLORS / FUNCTIONS:
TOP ROW
RED / YELLOW STRIPE SUBWOOFER (+)
BLACK SUBWOOFER (-)
BLACK SHIELD
RED SUBWOOFER MUTE BOTTOM ROW
RED / YELLOW STRIPE NO FUNCTION
BLACK NO FUNCTION
BLACK NO FUNCTION
RED NO FUNCTION
Thanks for the links and info. from a fellow Carolinian. Being it's a new company owned truck I prefer to try not butcher the wires and keep it clean. I was thinking if I could get some pin connectors (thanks for the links) and determine which pins on the back of the radio I need to connect to I'm good to go.
I'll pull the radio and check the plug at the kick panel(s) for any ID numbers.
Again, thanks for taking the time to try to help me out.
You guys can go to the Autozone website, register, then access wring diagrams for these trucks. Might be real helpful. They had them for my 2003 SD when I was looking for the wriing details on my overhead console. If you read the connector numbers off of the wiring diagram then go to the connecotr diagram for that plug, you should be able to fugure out everything you need.
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1949 F2
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I need to perform the same swap - any tips on dash removal, radio install, running speaker wires/mounting rear speakers, etc., on my '08 F250.
Thanks
Pulling the radio is a ten minute task, if that long.... Pop out the panel on the lower left (cig. lighter) and the blank panel on the lower right. Remove the screws (6mm head) from each side and pull slightly on each side and the bottom will unsnap. What I did was pulled out enough to get my hand under the panel one at a time on each side about midway up and pulled out on the top while using my hand under the panel about midway as a pivot point. You don't have to disconnect the cig. lighter, trailer brake wires or anything. there is enough slack in the wires for the panel to lay back out of the way with plenty of room to remove the 4 screws in the radio and pulling it out.
The hardest part will be getting the connector pins. Once you get them install them in the plug to the radio as follows:
pin #9- left rear positive- white/green
pin #10- right rear positive- brown/white
pin #22- left rear negative- brown/yellow
pin #23- right rear negative- brown/blue
The speaker harness on my truck only went as far as the kick panel on the passenger side and terminated at a big plug. I tapped in the speaker wire harness under the scuff panel on each side using tap-n-go plugs.
You'll have to get some retaining nuts to mount the speakers. I took the seat belt bolt out and pulled the panel back out of the way on each side to ease the speaker installation.
From start to finish it took about and hour in all to go from a 2 speaker system to a 4 speaker system and it was worth the effort.
If you need a radio let me know. I might still be able to get an AM-FM-CD-MP3 player for less than $150 or an AM-FM- 6 disc CD-MP3 for $200 and a pair of OEM speakers for about $30 if your interested.
I can fax a picture of the radio plug identifying the pin locations if you want. I just need a fax number.
I just installed upgraded from AM/FM to AM/FM/CD/MP3 in my '09. Everything works fine except when I turn on my headlights. The backlights on the radio blink. I'm guessing I need to have the unit programmed (coded) by the dealer? Did you have any similar issues?
I just installed upgraded from AM/FM to AM/FM/CD/MP3 in my '09. Everything works fine except when I turn on my headlights. The backlights on the radio blink. I'm guessing I need to have the unit programmed (coded) by the dealer? Did you have any similar issues?
Thanks.
I didn't have any problems. I bought three of these units, one for me and two for some guys at work and each one of them worked fine.
Turns out the difference is that the stereo I installed was brand-new, never installed. I talked to a tech and he said if it was a take-out there would be no need to re-program. I wish I'd bought a used unit now. I have an appointment to see the dealer on Thursday.
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