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Old 07-03-2009, 12:26 PM
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I dont know how much boost they are creating here, but here is something I found for V10's.
http://image.sporttruck.com/f/914933...mage_large.jpg

Keep in mind these are dyno numbers, not on paper out a brochure

Edit: just found it has 22 psi of boost and it cost $5-6k
A centrifugal on a 2V.
I'm not talking about a centrifugal S/C.
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:01 PM
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Putting that much boost into a stock gas engine will melt down the pistons and spew oil out every orifice that is connected to the oil sump chamber. I thought this would be obvious but apparently it is not.

A centrifugal supercharger enhances power mostly at high engine speeds. That's fine for a drag racer with a loose torque converter but not very suitable for a working truck. I'd focus on a turbocharger or positive displacement supercharger for a truck application. A turbocharged V10 would be a monster and fairly inexpensive if you fabbed up your own exhaust. Again, you would really have to be careful if you wanted to tow under boost.
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I dont know how much boost they are creating here, but here is something I found for V10's.
http://image.sporttruck.com/f/914933...mage_large.jpg

Keep in mind these are dyno numbers, not on paper out a brochure

Edit: just found it has 22 psi of boost and it cost $5-6k
The highest boost Supercharger system Vortech ever made for the V10 used a max of 9psi of boost. They were designed to be used with a stock engine.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...on.php?pvk=624

Heres a link to prove your numbers are way off. A bolt on supercharger kit was never made for the V10 that put out more than 9 pounds of boost. Of course all the bolt on kits were also for the 2V only, the 3V would put out more power.
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:29 PM
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The highest boost Supercharger system Vortech ever made for the V10 used a max of 9psi of boost. They were designed to be used with a stock engine.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...on.php?pvk=624

Heres a link to prove your numbers are way off. A bolt on supercharger kit was never made for the V10 that put out more than 9 pounds of boost. Of course all the bolt on kits were also for the 2V only, the 3V would put out more power.
Your right my numbers are way off! That kit is almost $7K!!!!


I was looking at the spec sheet that listed max boost at 22 for the heavy duty unit.

Here is the page I looked at.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/scspecsheet.php

They must limit the boost on the motor to keep it from blowing the spark plugs through the hood!
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Hrmm...

8 cylinders + 2 turbos = 10
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You know I was just thinking about that $7k supercharger. If take and add that to a brand new V10 and compare it to a 6.4 with an exhaust and tuner I dont think it would even be a close contest on a dyno. Aren't the 6.4s getting close to 500hp with just a tune and exhaust in some cases?

The cost of the the mods to the V10 and the 6.4 would be about equal when you add the cost of the 6.4 option to a new pickup.
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So using that logic, why not pull the turbo off the diesel, and pull 2 spark plugs out of the V10? And no, I don't mean just run a 5.4, I mean run the 6.8 with 8 spark plugs.
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Are will still talking about how diesels are better then gas?
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Are will still talking about how diesels are better then gas?
Nope, it's become a contest to see who can urinate further
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Nope, it's become a contest to see who can urinate further
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I feel like stirring the pot. That said...

I find it amusing that the V10 needs 10 cylinders to get done what a diesel can do with 8.

The 6.4 takes two turbos to do what the v10 can do with none!
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Are will still talking about how diesels are better then gas?
no, we are talking about how gas is better.
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no, we are talking about how gas is better.
And no one has proven that
nor taken me up on my offer to prove that
nor even DEFINED "better"

and lastly at what ?

(u can't be all wrong though !!!! I sold my restored 'Datsun' 280zx 2+2 turbo a few years back to my mail man !!!! he said he had seen it each day in the back by the pool and always wanted it FUN little car !!!)

(he wanted a package deal with the wife too, but not a fair price - I didn't have enough cash!)
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