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Old 06-21-2009, 02:33 PM
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88 F-150 no fuel

1988 F-150 strait 6, with duel gas tanks. It ran when i parked it, i just replaced the sending unit cause the old one didnt work in the front tank. It has been sitting about 2 years. But now when i hit the key....no start. I took the fuel line going into the filter off and no fuel, I checked all the fuses. Is there a way to see if the pump is bad in the tank or on the frame rail? Is there a diagram for the plug on the fuel tank so i can check voltage and what its supposed to be?

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When you turn the ignition key to on and not start the engine, the fuel pump on the frame rail and the selected in tank pump should run for about 1 seconds.

By grounding pin #6 of your self-test (DLC/VIP) connector with the key on you should get fuel pressure at the fuel rail (manifold) schrader valve should be around 42 psi.

To trouble shoot the pumps that are in the tanks you need to unplug the electrical connector to the frame mounted pump so you don't continue to run the pump dry while you trouble shoot the in tank pump.

To verify the in tank pump is working, disconnect the supply hose going to the back of the selector valve.

On the back of the tank selector valve are 4 ports. Two from each tank.
The larger diameter hose is the supply hose the smaller hose is the return hose.

If you have full tanks the fuel will flow out of the supply lines from the tanks without the pumps even running but with pin #6 grounded of your test (DLC/VIP) connector and using the old style fuel pressure vacuum gauge you should get around 5 PSI fuel pressure from the selected tank.

So if you trace the larger diameter hose from the tank you're working on, place the end of the hose in a bucket turn on the key with pin #6 grounded of your test (DLC/VIP) connector grounded you should see fuel being pumped out of that tank. About 16 oz in 10 seconds.

If these tests looks good, reinstall the hoses and disconnect the hose at the input of the frame rail mounted fuel pump. Do the same test. If no fuel comes out of the hose, the selector valve is probably bad.

Only the Ford dealer sells the proper tank selector valve.
Part # F1UZ-9b263-B It's called a Fuel System Service Kit.
Should cost around $77.00.

The selector valve may be full of junk and not letting the fuel through it also but if it runs on one tank and not on the other then it would sound like the other tank has a bad fuel pump.

How the valve works is:
There is a lock on the center rod inside the selector valve that locks the valve to a tank and a diaphragm in the top of the selector valve to move the center rod to lock it to the other tank. Fuel pressure from the pump in the tank is sent to the top side or the under side of the diaphragm to snap it to the other tank that is selected by the tank pumps.

There is a plate attached to the diaphragm and the center rod that is also attached to two more rods that go to two valves that decide what tank the fuel is coming from going to the engine and what tank the return fuel is going back to.





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i did ground pin #6 and you could hear the fuel pump relay kicking, but still no fuel. Where is the reset switch for the fuel pump at? I have a 88 f150 extended cab.
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would the relay kick in and out if the reset switch was popped out?
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would the relay kick in and out if the reset switch was popped out?
Yes it would.
The reset switch (aka Inertia switch).


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I'm gonna check that out, your a life saver man.I will let you know the status.
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On the pump in the front tank im getting 12 volts until relay kicks out, them im getting 7 volts. With the pump on the frame rail im getting 12 volts until the relay kicks out, then the voltage drops to 0....is this normal? I'm still getting no fuel tho'
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The voltages sound about right as I have heard these voltages before from other members.

At any rate the pumps should pump fuel when they have 12 volts on them.
Do you hear the pumps running?
If not check the the fuel pumps ground, G801.
G801 is located on the LH inner fender behind the headlamp.
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ground looks good.......when i ground pin #6 out the relay kicks, but no sound from the pumps, and no fuel...think i should try to hit the pumps directly with 12 volts? I tried beating on them, and no good.
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