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Old 06-16-2009, 01:19 PM
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Can anyone tell me what year ford started putting the EGR system on The 300 six in a F150?
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Old 06-16-2009, 04:15 PM
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If I have heard correctly, it was 1978.
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1978 EGR system

Thanks. Can you tell me where I could find out exactly what the EGR system existed of in 1978, on the 300 six in a F150 4X4?
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If it's anything like my '81 (which I'm sure it is), it's pretty simple. Between the 1bbl carb and the intake is a spacer with an EGR valve on the end of it. Then, there's a pipe coming out of the exhaust manifold which routes up into the underside of the spacer.

When the engine is under load, a vacuum line pulls open the EGR valve, which lets exhaust out of the EGR pipe back into the intake.

Not a lot to it.
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Thanks for the help. I traded for this truck, and its my first 300 six. Some one has done a lot of backyard work on it and I am just trying to figure out where to start.
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Old 07-02-2009, 06:31 PM
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Start at your local, friendly auto parts house and obtain a Chiltons or Haynes repair manual that covers the year and model of your truck.
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It was earlier than that in California. Around when the EPA was formed.

My 1973 F-100 302-V8 had an EGR valve. Factory equipped.

My Father's 1976 300-I6 also had one.

But remember California was Special.
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If it's anything like my '81 (which I'm sure it is), it's pretty simple. Between the 1bbl carb and the intake is a spacer with an EGR valve on the end of it. Then, there's a pipe coming out of the exhaust manifold which routes up into the underside of the spacer.

When the engine is under load, a vacuum line pulls open the EGR valve, which lets exhaust out of the EGR pipe back into the intake.

Not a lot to it.

You forgot the ported vacuum switch, that shuts the EGR off when the engine is cold. Hooked into the water jacket, at one of the fittings in the thermostat housing.

But agreed, not much to it in the early years.
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Ah yes. Wasn't that to keep it from opening the EGR while the engine was cold?
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Thanks guys. I appreciate all the advice. My truck is in town for a couple of days getting painted. As soon as I get it back I will see what I can figure out.
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One more ?

I have another ? What is the small tube that runs from the manifold up to the carburetor choke? Mine has been broken off and bent over to pinch it off at the carburetor end. How do I get the other end out of the manifold?
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That is the heat chimney for the choke. When the manifold warms up, it sends heat up the tube and warms up and opens the choke up. It works in conjunction with the electric choke, if you have one.

You can just drill it out, it's nothing more than just a indent in the manifold and doesn't go anywhere. You can bend some more tubing and run it out of the choke and into that hole. Or, you can just have the tubing exit the choke, and then wrap it around the manifold a couple times. Just as long as it's touching.
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Ah yes. Wasn't that to keep it from opening the EGR while the engine was cold?
Exactly.

The EGR can cause drivability issues with the engine cold.
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I have another ? What is the small tube that runs from the manifold up to the carburetor choke? Mine has been broken off and bent over to pinch it off at the carburetor end. How do I get the other end out of the manifold?
Just as AbandonedBronco described it.

Except depending on exaust manifold, there may be a choke stove inside the exaust manifold.

Filtered air goes from the top port of the carb opened to the airhorn, goes to the bottom of the exaust manifold, goes through the choke stove in the exaust manifold, another tube is attached to the top, and this one attaches to the carb at the choke.

I would get this working, as it also helps to keep the carb from icing up, if you live in a cold climate.

You can get aftermarket choke stove tube kits at most autoparts stores.
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Just as AbandonedBronco described it.

Except depending on exaust manifold, there may be a choke stove inside the exaust manifold.

Filtered air goes from the top port of the carb opened to the airhorn, goes to the bottom of the exaust manifold, goes through the choke stove in the exaust manifold, another tube is attached to the top, and this one attaches to the carb at the choke.

I would get this working, as it also helps to keep the carb from icing up, if you live in a cold climate.

You can get aftermarket choke stove tube kits at most autoparts stores.
Definitely. It's a great system to have operating. Not only does it help in cold temperature, but even on warm days, the velocity of the air inside the carb can get them cold enough to lower performance. However, since this setup doesn't have much to do with the EGR system, it's probably not disconnected.
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