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Old 11-08-2014, 08:52 PM
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Just a suggestion that could shed some light. While you're looking at the GEM plug compare the wire colors to what you see on the back of the switch if you still have the back of the switch exposed. Might tell you something.
I appreciate your advice, the more I look into it I am thinking it is the GEM, my overhead display went out a while ago and i have seen some info that may be linked, as you said before power does go to the 4x4 switch from the GEM and I'm not getting any. Here is another question, does the GEM have to be programmed by the dealership if i order one online?

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Everyone thought it was my GEM. Worth a check
 
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[ does the GEM have to be programmed by the dealership if i order one online?

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Sorry I really don't know. I hope you don't need one. Mine was just the connection. Maybe someone reading this knows.
 
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Originally Posted by 1ton2002
I appreciate your advice, the more I look into it I am thinking it is the GEM, my overhead display went out a while ago and i have seen some info that may be linked, as you said before power does go to the 4x4 switch from the GEM and I'm not getting any. Here is another question, does the GEM have to be programmed by the dealership if i order one online?

Thanks again!
I heard they don't make them anymore. I think you can take them apart, clean the contacts etc also.
 
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The first things to check are the vacuum hoses going to the front knuckles, they are known to break and leak.
 
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I have the same issue with it switching on the fly. Vacuum pump operates and is functional. I did find a large melted spot on my vacuum tube part number 3C124 (the plastic ribbed tube). However, my air vents don't switch from front to defrost like others have. I'm convinced the melted spot on the down tube is the reason mines isn't locking. I wish I could upload the photos here but its not letting me.
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I have the same issue with it switching on the fly. Vacuum pump operates and is functional. I did find a large melted spot on my vacuum tube part number 3C124 (the plastic ribbed tube). However, my air vents don't switch from front to defrost like others have. I'm convinced the melted spot on the down tube is the reason mines isn't locking. I wish I could upload the photos here but its not letting me.
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put soapy water on it or submerge that part.
 
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EX,

I wish I could get the pictures on here. The tube is worn through as in completely severed. What I was trying to relay was that since I have that obvious leak, my vents for my AC / Heat does not change when I activate the 4x4 switch as others are reporting. I had read that was a good way to tell if you have a leak. Which why I didn't think I had a leak because I did not have those symptoms. I just followed the tube down and found it was melted completely.
 
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I wish I could get the pictures on here. The tube is worn through as in completely severed. What I was trying to relay was that since I have that obvious leak, my vents for my AC / Heat does not change when I activate the 4x4 switch as others are reporting. I had read that was a good way to tell if you have a leak. Which why I didn't think I had a leak because I did not have those symptoms. I just followed the tube down and found it was melted completely.
It could be that the tube that is severed by melting is maybe melted shut or was melted so that it wasn't losing vacuum but now since your AC/ Heat control doesn't work right it is leaking. I think I read that when there's a vacuum leak the heat will only come out the defrost vents.
 
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Dave,

No problems with my AC or Heat...sorry should have clarified.
I was saying my vents don't change when i use the 4x4 switch like a lot of others experience. The only way I knew I had a 4x4 error was trying to get my truck up my muddy driveway and it wouldn't lock in by the switch...made me do some digging (no pun) and look into my trucks 4x4 system and found the tube completely melted open so no vacuum what so ever.
 

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Was that the problem? Is it fixed?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Rathman
Dave,

No problems with my AC or Heat...sorry should have clarified.
I was saying my vents don't change when i use the 4x4 switch like a lot of others experience. The only way I knew I had a 4x4 error was trying to get my truck up my muddy driveway and it wouldn't lock in by the switch...made me do some digging (no pun) and look into my trucks 4x4 system and found the tube completely melted open so no vacuum what so ever.
You won't lose the HVAC system (defaults to defrost) unless the SOLENOID itself is venting to atmosphere all the time. A broken line, leaking seal, whatever, usually doesn't make it default to defrost.
 
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Locking hubs

I know this post is years old but it’s relevant to me now. I have a 2010 F-250 and the shift motor is toast in the front end of my 4x4. So is it possible to still engage my 4x4 manually? Locking the hubs? If so, how do I go about doing so?

Thank you for the help!!
 
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Originally Posted by Joe Cercone
I know this post is years old but it’s relevant to me now. I have a 2010 F-250 and the shift motor is toast in the front end of my 4x4. So is it possible to still engage my 4x4 manually? Locking the hubs? If so, how do I go about doing so?

Thank you for the help!!

no.....the hubs just lock the wheels to the axle. If the 4x4 motor isn’t engaging the axle though, the axle (and wheels) won’t have any power to them.
 
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