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The payload is the one area where there's a significant difference between SRW and DRW. Technically, the SRW will tow a little more, but the rated payload is a hair under 6,000 pounds for my DRW, and its all due just to that extra set of tires. Of course when you're not actually hauling heavy, they're just dead weight....
Tires 5 and 6 aren't really for load, they are for stability. You can get tires with higher load ratings, but you don't get 8 sidewalls to stabilize the load. (don't take my word for it, this is from the 2005 ford source book).

But it's true. It's not just the tires. The brakes, dana 70/80/110 axle, wheels, tires all play a part in the higher GVWR for a 350 DRW vs a 250/350. The truck gets a little heavier but it's (legal) capacity goes up by a lot.
 
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you will be fine. it is built ford tough, after all
 
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Tires 5 and 6 aren't really for load, they are for stability. You can get tires with higher load ratings, but you don't get 8 sidewalls to stabilize the load. (don't take my word for it, this is from the 2005 ford source book).

But it's true. It's not just the tires. The brakes, dana 70/80/110 axle, wheels, tires all play a part in the higher GVWR for a 350 DRW vs a 250/350. The truck gets a little heavier but it's (legal) capacity goes up by a lot.
are you saying a DRW and SRW 1 ton have different rear axles?
I thought they just had more leaf springs in the DRW and heaver brakes?
 
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Probably won't damage anything, but if you do it often (more than once) get some air bags. You are more than slightly over the max weight though, your truck should weight around 7000-7500 lbs depending on fuel, equipment and driver. So that only leaves 1300 lbs for payload.

Really you should be fine. The combined GVW is pretty high on these trucks, so there is theoretically some fudge room.
well the truck in my sig. weights 6460 gvw 8800 = 2340 payload
 
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That's the difference the gas motor and shorter bed can make. Is that your truck weight, completely empty?
 
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are you saying a DRW and SRW 1 ton have different rear axles?
I thought they just had more leaf springs in the DRW and heaver brakes?
Absolutely! I couldn't remember which dana rear axle it was, I think it's an 80.
 
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That's the difference the gas motor and shorter bed can make. Is that your truck weight, completely empty?
yup full tank of gas
 
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Absolutely! I couldn't remember which dana rear axle it was, I think it's an 80.
I have put 7000 pounds of concrete in the back of my SRW 1 ton.
how bad a thing to do is that? ( I assumed it had the DRW axle)
 
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The only real difference between a 250 and 350 (depending on year) is the rear blocks and the label on the door. 7000 lbs is far beyond what I would ever put in it. I would think it could break the springs, severely bottom out, bend something, over work the brakes etc at that load.
 
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hi there, i have an 04 f250 xl 5.4 4x4 is the main difference between this and a 350 only the blocks?
 
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Originally Posted by aldridgec
The only real difference between a 250 and 350 (depending on year) is the rear blocks and the label on the door. 7000 lbs is far beyond what I would ever put in it. I would think it could break the springs, severely bottom out, bend something, over work the brakes etc at that load.
I do it all the time. yes it does bottem out a lot, and I do brake jobs a lot, but the frame and every thing else seems to take it well.
what is the back axles limit ?
do the SRW and the DRW have the same frame?
With that much weight, i am still 1" off the bump stops.
 
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I call BS on hauling 7000lbs in a regular P/U box you physically run out of space.

I love how people make up stories. Unless its scale verified somebody has brown teeth from spewing BS.

Putting 4000lbs into a regular srw P/U is fine especailly its a low center of gravity load. If it was a big camper that weighed 4000lbs that is a different story.

Oh ya putting air bags on a truck doesn't make it better it makes it worse because now you have more stress on frame. It also gives you a false sense of handling. You start over driving with the load a bag blows or something lets go you loose control.
 
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Originally Posted by aldridgec
My truck weighs 7400lbs with me in it, but no tool box about 1/2 tank. Subtract the gvwr, which is 8800 lbs and you get about 1400. The 04 slightly heavier, depending on options accessories I was rounding out to 7500. So that leaves you with 1300, give or take a couple hundered pounds, but we are talking almost 2700 over that. That's why the 05 up had to have a 10k lb gvwr f250 because the trucks themselves have gotten so heavy.
The GVWR of my '08 F250 is 10,000 lbs. Not sure when that changed, but I have a payload of around 2,000 lbs.
 
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I routinely haul 300 gal (2400 lbs) of water in my 3/4 for my horses and have no problems. That is up and down hill and dale for 30 miles one way, up to three miles in a day.
 
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One pallet of concrete mix is 57, sixty pound bags. Two pallets easily fit in the bed of my truck.

Moist dirt is represented as weighing 3,000 pounds per cubic yard. I routinely carry two cubic yards, sometimes a little more.

God only knows what a bed full of gravel would weigh....!
 


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