1952 F1 frame swap info needed
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1952 F1 frame swap info needed
Newbie here just wanted to say hello and have a few questions? I have had a 1952 F1 now for about 10 years, drove it home and began pulling it apart that day. It has been sitting inside garage and body is in great shape. Ten years later i want to start again and actually finish the job.
What I am wanting to do is to swap the 52 frame with something compatable preferably in a 4x4. Will 70's model F150 frames fit the 52 body? Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks
What I am wanting to do is to swap the 52 frame with something compatable preferably in a 4x4. Will 70's model F150 frames fit the 52 body? Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks
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There's a member of the board,jpb222, that has done a home built 4X4 on budget and has done a good job of documenting it:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...d-f-1-4x4.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...d-f-1-4x4.html
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A late model Ford Explorer is an option that is discussed in detail on the HAMB. one link to a detailed discussion is Definitive Ranger/Explorer Frame Swap Vehicle List - THE H.A.M.B.
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I started that.
Don't forget to check out the S-10 Frame Swap thread mentioned in the first post!
~Jason
Don't forget to check out the S-10 Frame Swap thread mentioned in the first post!
~Jason
A late model Ford Explorer is an option that is discussed in detail on the HAMB. one link to a detailed discussion is Definitive Ranger/Explorer Frame Swap Vehicle List - THE H.A.M.B.
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Frame swap for 52 f100
Newbie here just wanted to say hello and have a few questions? I have had a 1952 F1 now for about 10 years, drove it home and began pulling it apart that day. It has been sitting inside garage and body is in great shape. Ten years later i want to start again and actually finish the job.
What I am wanting to do is to swap the 52 frame with something compatable preferably in a 4x4. Will 70's model F150 frames fit the 52 body? Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks
What I am wanting to do is to swap the 52 frame with something compatable preferably in a 4x4. Will 70's model F150 frames fit the 52 body? Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks
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Hey Abrauer,
Welcome Aboard! Good to see another Texan jumping into
an old Ford truck project. The easiest path would be to use your '52 frame so all the
sheet metal fits and update the suspension & power train as you like.
Rear End - A lot of folks update the rear end to get better cruising at highway speeds.
We put a Ford Explorer 8.8 rear axle on our's with 3.73 gearing, limited slip, disc brakes..
Very straight forward.. 2 weekend job. (Changes you to a car stud pattern). Ford 9 inch another good option.
Front End - Much more complicated. A lot of folks are using a salvage Jaguar front end as the width is perfect.
Lot's of welding shock towers, frame boxing, etc,. We went with a Mustang II style IFS - after market. Pricey but nice.
5 to 6 weeks unless you are really good at welding.
So.. In under 2 months you have your 52 frame with new front and rear modern suspensions and all of your sheet metal fits.
Pick your drive train.... We chose to go with a 351W with an Edelbrock Top End Kit & an AOD transmission. Very good cruiser.
Good luck over there in Santa Fe TX!
Ben in Austin
1950 F1 (351W/AOD)
Welcome Aboard! Good to see another Texan jumping into
an old Ford truck project. The easiest path would be to use your '52 frame so all the
sheet metal fits and update the suspension & power train as you like.
Rear End - A lot of folks update the rear end to get better cruising at highway speeds.
We put a Ford Explorer 8.8 rear axle on our's with 3.73 gearing, limited slip, disc brakes..
Very straight forward.. 2 weekend job. (Changes you to a car stud pattern). Ford 9 inch another good option.
Front End - Much more complicated. A lot of folks are using a salvage Jaguar front end as the width is perfect.
Lot's of welding shock towers, frame boxing, etc,. We went with a Mustang II style IFS - after market. Pricey but nice.
5 to 6 weeks unless you are really good at welding.
So.. In under 2 months you have your 52 frame with new front and rear modern suspensions and all of your sheet metal fits.
Pick your drive train.... We chose to go with a 351W with an Edelbrock Top End Kit & an AOD transmission. Very good cruiser.
Good luck over there in Santa Fe TX!
Ben in Austin
1950 F1 (351W/AOD)
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Hey Abrauer,
Welcome Aboard! Good to see another Texan jumping into
an old Ford truck project. The easiest path would be to use your '52 frame so all the
sheet metal fits and update the suspension & power train as you like.
Rear End - A lot of folks update the rear end to get better cruising at highway speeds.
We put a Ford Explorer 8.8 rear axle on our's with 3.73 gearing, limited slip, disc brakes..
Very straight forward.. 2 weekend job. (Changes you to a car stud pattern). Ford 9 inch another good option.
Front End - Much more complicated. A lot of folks are using a salvage Jaguar front end as the width is perfect.
Lot's of welding shock towers, frame boxing, etc,. We went with a Mustang II style IFS - after market. Pricey but nice.
5 to 6 weeks unless you are really good at welding.
So.. In under 2 months you have your 52 frame with new front and rear modern suspensions and all of your sheet metal fits.
Pick your drive train.... We chose to go with a 351W with an Edelbrock Top End Kit & an AOD transmission. Very good cruiser.
Good luck over there in Santa Fe TX!
Ben in Austin
1950 F1 (351W/AOD)
Welcome Aboard! Good to see another Texan jumping into
an old Ford truck project. The easiest path would be to use your '52 frame so all the
sheet metal fits and update the suspension & power train as you like.
Rear End - A lot of folks update the rear end to get better cruising at highway speeds.
We put a Ford Explorer 8.8 rear axle on our's with 3.73 gearing, limited slip, disc brakes..
Very straight forward.. 2 weekend job. (Changes you to a car stud pattern). Ford 9 inch another good option.
Front End - Much more complicated. A lot of folks are using a salvage Jaguar front end as the width is perfect.
Lot's of welding shock towers, frame boxing, etc,. We went with a Mustang II style IFS - after market. Pricey but nice.
5 to 6 weeks unless you are really good at welding.
So.. In under 2 months you have your 52 frame with new front and rear modern suspensions and all of your sheet metal fits.
Pick your drive train.... We chose to go with a 351W with an Edelbrock Top End Kit & an AOD transmission. Very good cruiser.
Good luck over there in Santa Fe TX!
Ben in Austin
1950 F1 (351W/AOD)
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Hey John,
We beefed up the overdrive band to Kevlar. They tend to slip off under stress.
There are (3) versions of AOD's out there... You want the one that came with the V8's.
They were built to a higher spec. with 2 inch wide overdrive bands. We don't race our truck & honestly we just cruise.
You can do more upgrades to get it to AODE specs but we didn't do it & haven't had any problems.
The one thing we did that I wish we hadn't was we upgraded the clutch pack to a more
aggressive set up... it holds off & is higher revving. It shifts hard - kind of a kick. I'd stick with
the standard clutch pack unless you like higher revving & hard shifting.
Baumann Engineering has a lot of information on AOD's & the different options.
Be careful with that cable drive set up - we ate a transmission during set up..
I found a good shop with experienced folks for round 2.
I like the 400HP in the Edelbrock Top End Kit... makes for easy modern highway driving.
I think they have a 475HP one as well - I can't imagine needing more power.
Ben in Austin
1950 F1 (351W/AOD)
We beefed up the overdrive band to Kevlar. They tend to slip off under stress.
There are (3) versions of AOD's out there... You want the one that came with the V8's.
They were built to a higher spec. with 2 inch wide overdrive bands. We don't race our truck & honestly we just cruise.
You can do more upgrades to get it to AODE specs but we didn't do it & haven't had any problems.
The one thing we did that I wish we hadn't was we upgraded the clutch pack to a more
aggressive set up... it holds off & is higher revving. It shifts hard - kind of a kick. I'd stick with
the standard clutch pack unless you like higher revving & hard shifting.
Baumann Engineering has a lot of information on AOD's & the different options.
Be careful with that cable drive set up - we ate a transmission during set up..
I found a good shop with experienced folks for round 2.
I like the 400HP in the Edelbrock Top End Kit... makes for easy modern highway driving.
I think they have a 475HP one as well - I can't imagine needing more power.
Ben in Austin
1950 F1 (351W/AOD)
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