6.0L - Difference between model years
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well said
well said mark thanks for the info straight to the point with no unnecessary nonsense. I'm pretty knowledgeable on the 6.0s but i was looking for the whole breakdown on the split year nonsence. I've run 7.3 for a very long time know them inside and out however was kinda forced into a 6.0 recently and doing lots and lots aaaaand lots of preliminary work to avoid a 6.0h "no start delivering engine to dumpster" I've worked oh a bunch at my shop but never really took the time to break one completely down and "bullet proof" one the right way. I've got a 2005 6.0 apart
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Engine Swap
Thanks for the info. I was wondering . I put an 05 motor in an 04. At first everything seemed ok but it has gotten worse every day. The egr is spotty even after replacing it, the turbo makes a wierd sound like grinding when i let odd sometimes and it will lose powere for a few miles then be normal then lose power again. I did use the harness from the 05 as well. I tried to put the 05 computer in it to but it just caused the truck to surge when i drove it so i put the 04 computer back in. Any suggestions? Pleaseeeeeee
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Thanks for the info. I was wondering . I put an 05 motor in an 04. At first everything seemed ok but it has gotten worse every day. The egr is spotty even after replacing it, the turbo makes a wierd sound like grinding when i let odd sometimes and it will lose powere for a few miles then be normal then lose power again. I did use the harness from the 05 as well. I tried to put the 05 computer in it to but it just caused the truck to surge when i drove it so i put the 04 computer back in. Any suggestions? Pleaseeeeeee
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Fantastic writeup bismic.
I've always gone to this site to get general info.
http://www.powerstrokehub.com/6.0-mo...r-changes.html
I've always gone to this site to get general info.
http://www.powerstrokehub.com/6.0-mo...r-changes.html
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NOTE - original thread updated because of broken (old) links.
Also - I have attached is a snapshot from a Ford Training document. It describes the change in 2004 glow plugs (shorter) and the need to make sure that the earlier 2003 glow plugs are not installed in the 2004+ year models.
I have posted this a few times already, but it is important, and because there is internet material that erroneously describes it the other way around, I felt it should be emphasized.
I will also emphasize that the cast iron HPOP with the troublesome STC fitting came out in 2005. None of the 2004 engines had this pump. All 2004 engines came with the round aluminum HPOP. The 2004 HPOP was upgraded in capacity slightly over the 2003 HPOP due to the increased size/volume of the wavy oil rails that were introduced for the 2004 engine (note that the early 2004 trucks were equipped with the 2003 engine). The 2004.5 HPOP is exactly the same external shape/size/dimensions as the 2003-2004 HPOP.
Also - I have attached is a snapshot from a Ford Training document. It describes the change in 2004 glow plugs (shorter) and the need to make sure that the earlier 2003 glow plugs are not installed in the 2004+ year models.
I have posted this a few times already, but it is important, and because there is internet material that erroneously describes it the other way around, I felt it should be emphasized.
I will also emphasize that the cast iron HPOP with the troublesome STC fitting came out in 2005. None of the 2004 engines had this pump. All 2004 engines came with the round aluminum HPOP. The 2004 HPOP was upgraded in capacity slightly over the 2003 HPOP due to the increased size/volume of the wavy oil rails that were introduced for the 2004 engine (note that the early 2004 trucks were equipped with the 2003 engine). The 2004.5 HPOP is exactly the same external shape/size/dimensions as the 2003-2004 HPOP.
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Probably so. I emphasized it because so many people would argue with me the other way around because of the respected person that said it in an older youtube video. Not taking anything away from him ...... no one is perfect!
Here is interesting information I found a long time ago on an internet search - also provides some detail on the transmission:
6.0L V8 Diesel Engine - Exceptional Reliability & Durability with Extensive Testing
– Designed for 250,000 miles
– Redesigned High Mileage Water Pump
• Patterned After Best-In-Class Design
• Robust Cam & Crank Sensor Upgrades
• Joint & Seal Improvements
– 30% Fewer Wetted-Joints
– Press-in-Place Gaskets
– Face Seal O-Rings
– Carrier Gaskets vs. RTV
– New Oil Pan w/ Single Plane Oil Seal
Improved 1st & 2nd Gear Ratios vs. 4R100
5-Speed ..........4R100
– 1st: 3.09........ 2.71
– 2nd: 2.20....... 1.54
– 3rd: 1.54........ 1.00
– 4th: 1.00......... 0.71
– 5th: 0.71
– Span: 4.35..... 3.82
• Improved Reliability
– Cooling System Upgrades
– Major Transmission System Upgrades
– Filtration System Improvements
• Direct Electronic Shift Control (DESC)
– Improved Shift Control
– Faster Response to Driver Demand
Customer Benefits:
– Improved Durability & Reliability
– Increased Torque & Power Capacity
– Improved Shift Quality
– Increased Vehicle Load Capacity
• 22,000 lb GVW
• 30,000 lb GCW
– Driver-Selected Tow-Haul Mode
• Improved Towing Characteristics
– Upgraded Transmission/PTO Powerflow for Improved Reliability
– 15% Lighter than Competitive Transmission
Increased Cooler Flow Capacity by 127%
– High Flow - Cast Iron Pump Body
– ½ in. Diameter Cooler Lines
– High Capacity OTA & In-Tank Coolers
– Externally Mounted Cartridge Oil Filter
• Larger Diameter Tempered Output Shaft
• Robust Planetary Gearset Upgrades
• Robust Clutch System Upgrades
– High Energy Friction Material
– Bonded Piston Seals
– Improved Lubrication
• External Joint & Seal Improvements
• Robust Torque Converter Upgrades
Here is interesting information I found a long time ago on an internet search - also provides some detail on the transmission:
6.0L V8 Diesel Engine - Exceptional Reliability & Durability with Extensive Testing
– Designed for 250,000 miles
– Redesigned High Mileage Water Pump
• Patterned After Best-In-Class Design
• Robust Cam & Crank Sensor Upgrades
• Joint & Seal Improvements
– 30% Fewer Wetted-Joints
– Press-in-Place Gaskets
– Face Seal O-Rings
– Carrier Gaskets vs. RTV
– New Oil Pan w/ Single Plane Oil Seal
Improved 1st & 2nd Gear Ratios vs. 4R100
5-Speed ..........4R100
– 1st: 3.09........ 2.71
– 2nd: 2.20....... 1.54
– 3rd: 1.54........ 1.00
– 4th: 1.00......... 0.71
– 5th: 0.71
– Span: 4.35..... 3.82
• Improved Reliability
– Cooling System Upgrades
– Major Transmission System Upgrades
– Filtration System Improvements
• Direct Electronic Shift Control (DESC)
– Improved Shift Control
– Faster Response to Driver Demand
Customer Benefits:
– Improved Durability & Reliability
– Increased Torque & Power Capacity
– Improved Shift Quality
– Increased Vehicle Load Capacity
• 22,000 lb GVW
• 30,000 lb GCW
– Driver-Selected Tow-Haul Mode
• Improved Towing Characteristics
– Upgraded Transmission/PTO Powerflow for Improved Reliability
– 15% Lighter than Competitive Transmission
Increased Cooler Flow Capacity by 127%
– High Flow - Cast Iron Pump Body
– ½ in. Diameter Cooler Lines
– High Capacity OTA & In-Tank Coolers
– Externally Mounted Cartridge Oil Filter
• Larger Diameter Tempered Output Shaft
• Robust Planetary Gearset Upgrades
• Robust Clutch System Upgrades
– High Energy Friction Material
– Bonded Piston Seals
– Improved Lubrication
• External Joint & Seal Improvements
• Robust Torque Converter Upgrades
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