Questions regarding the Edge Programmer
#1
Questions regarding the Edge Programmer
For the guys that have this programmer on their 2004-2008 F150's I have a few questions. I had this programmer on my 2001 and had alot of problems with it. There was an error on the screen and Edge couldn't reflash the computer. The other time I accidently turned the truck off when it was programming and Edge couldn't get the PCM to reflash (I know this was my fault, but still). Has anyone experienced any problems with theres? Also, being that my truck only has 16,000 miles on it; will there be a problem regarding warrenty work?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
#2
I've had a few problems with it, but only when I mess with the settings. Sometimes it will send the truck into failsafe mode if I change the timing too much or run E85.
If you need warranty service on your truck return it to the stock tune and remove the edge. Some dealers are cool with it, others will note it on your oasis report then they'll say it caused everything from brake problems to flat tires. Also, dealers will sometime reflash your PCM out of standard practice for troubleshooting. If your canned tune is on there it will be overwritten and you will need to return your unit to Edge for unlocking.
If you need warranty service on your truck return it to the stock tune and remove the edge. Some dealers are cool with it, others will note it on your oasis report then they'll say it caused everything from brake problems to flat tires. Also, dealers will sometime reflash your PCM out of standard practice for troubleshooting. If your canned tune is on there it will be overwritten and you will need to return your unit to Edge for unlocking.
#4
I've only seen 1 or 2 actual failure complaints about the Edge.
99% of the complaints I see with the Edge are User Error...much like what you yourself describe.
You might also want to look into the PHP Gryphon (Edge reboxed with custom tunes). I have heard nothing but glowing reports from them. And Bill & Cory take a hands on interest in their product.
1st you said it was throwing you into 5th gear...now your saying 6th gear
do you even have a 04-08 truck?, or a 2009? what year?
and are you sure you have the proper Edge unit and proper software revision for your truck. There is a different Edge revision for each year...especially the 07 and 08's
btw, you are extremely hard to follow. Please take 1-2 minutes longer in typing so we can understand your fragmented typing a little bit better
99% of the complaints I see with the Edge are User Error...much like what you yourself describe.
You might also want to look into the PHP Gryphon (Edge reboxed with custom tunes). I have heard nothing but glowing reports from them. And Bill & Cory take a hands on interest in their product.
do you even have a 04-08 truck?, or a 2009? what year?
and are you sure you have the proper Edge unit and proper software revision for your truck. There is a different Edge revision for each year...especially the 07 and 08's
btw, you are extremely hard to follow. Please take 1-2 minutes longer in typing so we can understand your fragmented typing a little bit better
#5
I've only seen 1 or 2 actual failure complaints about the Edge.
99% of the complaints I see with the Edge are User Error...much like what you yourself describe.
You might also want to look into the PHP Gryphon (Edge reboxed with custom tunes). I have heard nothing but glowing reports from them. And Bill & Cory take a hands on interest in their product.
1st you said it was throwing you into 5th gear...now your saying 6th gear
do you even have a 04-08 truck?, or a 2009? what year?
and are you sure you have the proper Edge unit and proper software revision for your truck. There is a different Edge revision for each year...especially the 07 and 08's
btw, you are extremely hard to follow. Please take 1-2 minutes longer in typing so we can understand your fragmented typing a little bit better
99% of the complaints I see with the Edge are User Error...much like what you yourself describe.
You might also want to look into the PHP Gryphon (Edge reboxed with custom tunes). I have heard nothing but glowing reports from them. And Bill & Cory take a hands on interest in their product.
1st you said it was throwing you into 5th gear...now your saying 6th gear
do you even have a 04-08 truck?, or a 2009? what year?
and are you sure you have the proper Edge unit and proper software revision for your truck. There is a different Edge revision for each year...especially the 07 and 08's
btw, you are extremely hard to follow. Please take 1-2 minutes longer in typing so we can understand your fragmented typing a little bit better
#6
I've only seen 1 or 2 actual failure complaints about the Edge.
99% of the complaints I see with the Edge are User Error...much like what you yourself describe.
You might also want to look into the PHP Gryphon (Edge reboxed with custom tunes). I have heard nothing but glowing reports from them. And Bill & Cory take a hands on interest in their product.
99% of the complaints I see with the Edge are User Error...much like what you yourself describe.
You might also want to look into the PHP Gryphon (Edge reboxed with custom tunes). I have heard nothing but glowing reports from them. And Bill & Cory take a hands on interest in their product.
#7
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#9
If you are really worried about warranty coverage if you have a programmer installed, then I probably would not install one. It's really up to the dealer whether they'll cover a problem or not if you have a problem. Stock, the burden of proof, so to speak, is on the dealer. With alterations such as a programmer, the burden of proof is on the customer. A lot of it depends on the relationship you have with your service department. But if a problem happens out of town, then all bets are off. That being said, Edge, Gryphon, and SCT are all excellent choices.
#10
ok i googled php, and came up with all kinds of crap except for the truck programmer! what do you mean by canned tunes? are they like a generic tune? if so are they made for the F-150 specifically? sorry kinda new to this
thank you for your help!
Rik
thank you for your help!
Rik
#11
Canned tunes are generic tunes for all trucks with the calibration code the same. They are not tailored to the individual truck or user for the application. Kinda like a one size fits all deal. They work good, but can have glitches that can cause running issues or give codes. Custom tunes is the best way to go. That way everything is tuned to your specific application. Everyone on this forum seems to be really happy with the SCT X3 from Troyer Performance or the Gryphon from Power Hungry Performance.
#12
Sorry used PHP instead of Power Hungry Performance. I am getting the canned tune Gryphon for my 08 for now because I do not know what if any changes I will be making to my truck. There are a lot of posts about using a CAI with out a custom tune becauseof the possibility of running lean. Well worth the time to do some research IMOH.
#13
Does anyone have rough idle or idle sensitivity issues with the Edge? I Have a stock motor/intake etc. and it seems like when running the level 1 or 2 on the tuner I have problems. Almost like the tunes that Edge uses needs to have a perfectly clean air filter/MAF/TB/TPS etc. or it wants to die at idle sometimes. This could have something to do with the AZ summer also? This is my first summer using the Edge. I realize that I should keep all these things I mentioned clean and up to par but lets be honest... there should be room for error here.
#15
I've had a few problems with it, but only when I mess with the settings. Sometimes it will send the truck into failsafe mode if I change the timing too much or run E85.
If you need warranty service on your truck return it to the stock tune and remove the edge. Some dealers are cool with it, others will note it on your oasis report then they'll say it caused everything from brake problems to flat tires. Also, dealers will sometime reflash your PCM out of standard practice for troubleshooting. If your canned tune is on there it will be overwritten and you will need to return your unit to Edge for unlocking.
If you need warranty service on your truck return it to the stock tune and remove the edge. Some dealers are cool with it, others will note it on your oasis report then they'll say it caused everything from brake problems to flat tires. Also, dealers will sometime reflash your PCM out of standard practice for troubleshooting. If your canned tune is on there it will be overwritten and you will need to return your unit to Edge for unlocking.
On the other hand, I've been running my truck on LVL2 for about 50k and ran on LVL3 for about 13k when gas wasn't so damn expensive...with no problems. My PCM always took about 25-50 miles to 're-learn' parameters but overall its been a great product. I still get 16mpg in the city with the tires I have on it.
BUT, I would say I'm in the market for the new EDGE but with the Gyrphon tunes on it. A buddy has the EXACT same setup (largely so we could get discounts when we upgraded at the same times) but with the Gryphon and I love the way his truck drives..every engine & truck is different, but be the 'i want factor' or not I like the Gryphon better.