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Old 05-04-2009, 05:48 PM
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2009 Transmission Burnt out Towing Behind Motorhome

We just got a new 2009 Escape a few weeks ago. It has about 2500 miles on it now. We towed it about 500 miles behind our motorhome, following all the rules.

The transmission was totally burnt when we unhooked it!

They are ordering us a new transmission, and gave us a rental while we are stuck on the road, but we are worried it will happen again.

We have a tow shied to protect it when we tow (one of the bra looking things). Could that be covering a vent? We had the same thing on our last tow car - a Chevy HHR, and this never happened.

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Old 05-04-2009, 06:32 PM
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describe what all types of preventive measures yall took? is it 4wd by the way? that will help the problem alot.
EDIT: well i just realized that Chevy HHR's are front wheel drive. and if your escape is 4wd did yall unhook the drive shafts? if not the gears would be spinning the drive shaft which would cause the transmission to spin without gear lubes flowing. which could cause your gears to burn out and tear up.
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:36 PM
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The 2009 owner's manual reads as follows:
Front wheel drive -
Tow will all 4 wheels on the ground (or with front wheels on a tow dolly)
Tow only in the forward direction
Transmission in Neutral
Place the ignition in the accessory position (I wouldn't have thought of that)
Do not exceed 65 mph
Start the engine at the start of each day and at each gas stop and allow to run for 5 minutes

Four wheel drive is the same except that you can't use a front-wheel dolly.

Nothing about disconnecting driveshafts.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:21 PM
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Thank you

Yes, we followed the owners manual.

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Old 05-04-2009, 10:28 PM
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Let us know how well this is resolved and if Ford has any diagnosis for why this happened when it shouldn't have.
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I have a 2009 Escape broken down in Monroe, La with the same problem. It was towed 40 miles with no problems. The first big trip it broke down within 300 miles.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:42 PM
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Is this a 5-speed manual or auto trans? I thought you could not tow an auto trans with the driveshafts in place?
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It is an automatic transmission with front wheel drive. The owners manual states it can be towed 4 wheels down as in the post above.
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Is this a 5-speed manual or auto trans? I thought you could not tow an auto trans with the driveshafts in place?
you cant tow an auto like that.
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My 2005 manual says you can only tow with 4 wheels on the ground if it is a 5-speed. For auto trans, it says FWD must have the front wheels on a tow dolly, and 4x4 must have all 4 wheels *off* the ground. Was the HHR an auto trans as well?
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you cant tow an auto like that.
Actually this question has been around since AT's were invented. Some of them you could tow, others not. Years ago it had to do with where the internal oil pump was driven from. The ones you couldn't tow with the driveshaft in place had a pump driven from the input shaft. If the motor didn't run, it didn't pump. Others had the pump driven from the output shaft. If the driveshaft spun, the pump worked. Thus it could be towed with the driveshaft in.



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yes but almost all autos have it on the input shaft.
that way the trans can take siting and idling in D in traffic and not burn up.
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The thread is in reference to a 2009 Escape and the owner's manual (I have one) specifically says you can tow a FWD 2009 Escape with all 4 wheels on the ground.
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The thread is in reference to a 2009 Escape and the owner's manual (I have one) specifically says you can tow a FWD 2009 Escape with all 4 wheels on the ground.
well than something else was to blame.
might have just been a flaw in the trans.
were there any sighs of fluid leaking out?
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The last auto I know of that had a rear-mounted pump was the GM PowerGlide. It had 2 pumps, one front and one rear. The rear pump was there so you could push-start it.
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