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had homemade beef stew, and homade sourdough bread. stuffed.yeah bud, went to ace 1st, have always gotten any fastener I needed there, man said only products that are movers are being replaced.I told him that don't make sence, if you sold it, it's moving. he wasn't humored by that. had to go to walmart next, so went to the new lowes, nada. called home depo, and was given 2x4 prices, think the sales person probably still scratching his head, sure he has a college degree.stud is a stud right. mabe Jr can find us a picture for that one [can't wait] anyway, I'm back at home where the crazies can't get me [you all know I do live in CROWNSVILLE]