PMR build date and HP ?'s
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Well let me add some stuff here Headers are really useless unless you are pushing 550+ HP but they do sound nice if you want to make 400+ HP your going to need atleast some 230+ Hybrid/stage III injectors along with push rods, valve springs, and head studs your factory head gasket will work. IF your planning on more then 400 also you'll need a bigger turbo then what the 38R can handle IE an H2E or S400 turbo. Plus good tuning like Kris mentioned along with your fuel system upgraded and a decent HPOP (Diesel Sites Adrenaline or Terminators modified 17*). Along with your regular gauges, air intake and exhuast. Just what I have gathered and seen done my self.
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Yeah they might be a waste of money, but you gotta admit this sounds f'n badass!
(pause the video at :56 to see the headers glowing out of the fenderwell those were some hot egt's)
YouTube - Slow 7.3 Powerstroke drive by
(pause the video at :56 to see the headers glowing out of the fenderwell those were some hot egt's)
YouTube - Slow 7.3 Powerstroke drive by
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If you want your truck to last with all of that extra power it helps out and isn't that expensive. But no stage 2s are a waste of money really considering you get alot better performance out of say some 200CC Hybrids from Swamps and a 38R will get you your 400 HP it is dyno proven. Also a regulated fuel return would be a very good idea to help the truck feed those big injectors and quieten down the truck.
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The '03 7.3L (early '03) is the same truck as the '02 (I think there might have been a small programming tweak to up the Hp from 245Hp to 250Hp). The 7.3 was only run for a few months (stopped production in October 2002 in the US) in 2003 and Ford switched to the 6.0 in November. IIRC you could get the 7.3 in the Super Duty until 2004 outside the US, at least in Australia.
When the switched to the 6.0L they added heat and lights to the mirrors. They also started offering the sunroof with the 6.0L. As for anything else, I don't know.
When the switched to the 6.0L they added heat and lights to the mirrors. They also started offering the sunroof with the 6.0L. As for anything else, I don't know.
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The '03 7.3L (early '03) is the same truck as the '02 (I think there might have been a small programming tweak to up the Hp from 245Hp to 250Hp). The 7.3 was only run for a few months (stopped production in October 2002 in the US) in 2003 and Ford switched to the 6.0 in November. IIRC you could get the 7.3 in the Super Duty until 2004 outside the US, at least in Australia.
When the switched to the 6.0L they added heat and lights to the mirrors. They also started offering the sunroof with the 6.0L. As for anything else, I don't know.
When the switched to the 6.0L they added heat and lights to the mirrors. They also started offering the sunroof with the 6.0L. As for anything else, I don't know.
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I think the 250 HP came out in '01, thats what I have. I seen where one of our Australia members said they quit putting the 7.3 engine in the Super Duty trucks after '07. Here is a good link for the Diesel engines for all the trucks. click here
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I think the 250 HP came out in '01, thats what I have. I seen where one of our Australia members said they quit putting the 7.3 engine in the Super Duty trucks after '07. Here is a good link for the Diesel engines for all the trucks. click here
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As for hp stickers on the valve covers and the injectors underneath them, I thought my findings were interesting this past weekend. The 2000 motor I've got has 225hp on the vc sticker and DOES NOT have a long lead AE injector in #8. But my 02 has 250hp on the vc and does have the LL. I just thought it was interesting with the differences.
I talked with Jody from DP about this very thing when we were live tuning. He said that stage 2's would be just fine if all you're wanting to do is top the 400hp mark. Single shots will use less oil than the stock splits so as long as your pump is still strong, you probably wouldn't need to upgrade. With a van turbo or a 38R, you'd be in the low 400's. That's what he recommended to me. There's alot of people that are running and love hybrids. They're versitle, can be used for a tow vehicle, racing, daily driving, etc. But EVERYTHING relies on the tuning. If there's a tiny glitch, hickup, anything in the tuning that could present itself down the road, you could be up a creek. I specifically asked Jody about my concerns and he said they were valid. BTW, he's running straight B codes in his personal truck, not hybrids. I specifically asked him about that as well.
Here's my 1 of 100 different responses to your questions on mods to get to 400. This comes from many talks with the guys at BTS and with Jody when he was riding shotgun in my pickup.
***Stage 2's are plenty capable of getting you there. The up-pipes and headers will get you NO additional hp gains. Like Kris and others have said, the headers are just for astetics/sound. It's a good idea to put the bellowed up-pipes in when doing the turbo swap. That way they're done and you won't have to worry about leaks anymore. As for the turbo, a van turbo (that's what I'm running), or a 38R might get you a little more but there's the addtional price. I wouldn't worry about pushrods, valves springs, or headstuds if you're just wanting to get to 400. Headstuds aren't a bad idea if you've got full access to the top of the motor, like if it's out of the truck. That's why I'm adding them just cause I can get to them while the motor's on the stand. I've been told that I really don't need them though. There are several pickups running stage 2 Singles with stock valve springs and pushrods and are in the high 400's to low 500's. They do have headstuds though. If you're HPOP has some miles on it and isn't as strong as it once was, then I'd look at a Dieselsite Adreneline single or a Terminator modified single. Better than stock, not overkill, and won't break the bank. For a chip, look at DP, Tony Wildman, PHP, or BTS. All 4 are top notch and great options.
I'd also recommend a built tranny to handle the extra HP. A valve body from JW or BTS will help, but you'd still be running a stock tranny other than that. Sooner or later, it's gonna go!
Save the money on the things that you WON'T really benefit from if 400 is all you want and put it towards a built tranny.
Sorry for all the and the but that's where I stand!