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Old 04-29-2009, 05:44 AM
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If were a Pontiac or Saturn dealer?

If were a car dealer whose future with GM was bleak, what would you do to offset your losses? Would you court another car brand to simply stay in business?

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I was told GM will have to "buy out" all their dealers that will now have lost franchises...like they did when they killed oldsmobile.
 
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Are there any stand alone Pontiac dealers left? I thought the deal was that Buick-GMC-Pontiac are one now and Pontiac will just be dropped. When Chrysler-Plymouth became just Chrysler, dealers did not sue or get a payoff. Saturn is a different problem.

Scott Robinson Pontiac in Torrance became a Honda dealer as a sideline back in the 1970's. They later dropped GM and became Honda only, not because GM dropped them.

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I read an article stating that there are 27 Pontiac only dealers in the country. Most are bundled into Buick-Pontiac-GMC dealers.
 
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
Are there any stand alone Pontiac dealers left? I thought the deal was that Buick-GMC-Pontiac are one now and Pontiac will just be dropped. When Chrysler-Plymouth became just Chrysler, dealers did not sue or get a payoff. Saturn is a different problem.

Scott Robinson Pontiac in Torrance became a Honda dealer as a sideline back in the 1970's. They later dropped GM and became Honda only, not because GM dropped them.

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Around where I am in Central Indiana, all the Buick-GMC-Pontiac dealers already just say Buick-GMC. I guess they are the ones that are going to be sticking around.
 
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well, here in New Jersey we had Laffin Chevy.
they were in business for 98 years.
the great grandson of the original Mr Laffin closed up shop 4 months ago, because as he said, "the service dept and body shop could not offset the fact that people are not buying GM vehicles anymore, because they are not made the way they used to be".
 
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"If were a car dealer whose future with GM was bleak, what would you do to offset your losses? Would you court another car brand to simply stay in business?"

I'd jump into the USED car market instead. There is plenty of money to be made at multi-brand used car dealers with in-house financing. (The down payment clears the vehicle, after that and minimal overhead it's profit.) Used dealers can buy cars outright at dealer auctions, and not rely on outside credit to finance their business. Treat people right and they come back for second, third, or even more cars over time.
 
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"If were a car dealer whose future with GM was bleak, what would you do to offset your losses? Would you court another car brand to simply stay in business?"

I'd jump into the USED car market instead. There is plenty of money to be made at multi-brand used car dealers with in-house financing. (The down payment clears the vehicle, after that and minimal overhead it's profit.) Used dealers can buy cars outright at dealer auctions, and not rely on outside credit to finance their business. Treat people right and they come back for second, third, or even more cars over time.
That's exactly what I was thinking when I originally posted this query. However, CARMAX, a major multibrand used car operation has layed off a variety of it's staff. So, the used car guys are feeling the pinch as well. I'm thinking that part of thier problem is that they don't negotiate, they are a one price dealer. It's like buying a loaf of bread. That's not for me.

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I don't like the setup that Carmax has anyway. The boy and I went to one and they make it so you can only come in through the showroom to get to the cars. There the salesperson can latch on to you and start their sales pitch. We looked around for a little bit and then left and decided we wouldn't go back.
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
well, here in New Jersey we had Laffin Chevy. They were in business for 98 years. The great grandson of the original Mr Laffin closed up shop 4 months ago, because as he said, "the service dept and body shop could not offset the fact that people are not buying GM vehicles anymore, because they are not made the way they used to be".
Chevrolet was born in 1912, sired by Billy Durant (the founder of GM) and the Chevrolet Brothers.

After Durant lost control of GM in 1910, he used Chevrolet to get GM back by swapping stock.

In 1915, Chevrolet actually acquired GM, and Durant walked into a GM board meeting saying... "I CONTROL!"

Durant was now "back in the saddle again" but only till 1920, when he was forced out of GM for the second...and last time.

Several of the local Saturn dealers here in LA LA Land are also Buick-Pontiac-GMC Dealers.

Y'all know...of course that Buick was the brainchild of David Dunbar Buick, who made his fortune by inventing the process to attach porcelain to cast iron.

Buick's long time ad slogan was: When better cars are built, Buick will build them.

Jokesters back then said: "When better bathtubs are built, Buick will build them."
 
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I wouldn't be a franchised used car dealer. I'd go independent. They can flex as needed and an independent doesn't need to conform to anyone else's idea of corporate behavior.

"I'm thinking that part of thier problem is that they don't negotiate, they are a one price dealer."

That's retarded. The whole negotiation process, done right, helps bring in repeat customers. Treat people with some regard for their situation (especially in hard times) and they remember when they need another vehicle. I watched this process at the used car dealer where I help out. It works, it makes money, it builds a customer base.

Those who want customers need to make their customers happy or they will shop elsewhere.
 
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