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Old 04-18-2009, 09:09 PM
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3 Broken & Still In The Heads

Well today I decided to take the plunge and change my plugs. I soaked over night and still broke 3 plugs. Two of the three broke with the porcelin and the center electrode still in place. The remaining the porcelin broke but the electrode came out with the plug.

The sounds these things make while attempting to get them out will disturb you or at least they did me. One observation I will make, is the 3 the broke were the only one's I decided to turn out a little and then turn back in. I'm thinking I should have just kept going and not turned back in.

Ah, I don't frigin know. What I do know is I'm not sure how the heck to get these dam things out. I have given up for today and left these three soaking in Kroil.

What the heck can I do, other then use my AAA and have it towed to my local dealership. Is it possible to use some thing like a long handled awl and break away the porcelin without causing the plug tips to end up in the cylinder?

I'm hoping someone has a great suggestion so I can get these dam things out.

(I posted this over on F150online, I'm looking for all the help I can get)
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Old 04-18-2009, 09:49 PM
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there is a tool you can buy that is made to remove the broken pieces. I can't remember the name though, hopefully someone else will chime in.
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The Lisle #65600 is the removal tool.
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sorry, but we can't link you to other sites. But what I sent you is a pretty nifty DIY way to remove them.



btw, Matco and Snap-On both make a tool for the removal as well.
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:40 AM
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The Lisle tool works the best. If the electrode is broken flush the tool will work on it as well. If it is protruding above the porcelain you should be able to work it out or break it off flush with needle-nosed visegrips. Good luck.
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:57 AM
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When I was going to change the plugs I called Ford to see how much the special tools was and if I remember correctly it was about $200. It takes a few days to get too.
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I was under the impression that Ford put different heads (or something) on the 07-08 to keep this from happining. Did I make this up?

Am I going to have this problem with my 09?
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Ford changed the heads in late 07...so no..your 09 is not affected...
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sorry, but we can't link you to other sites. But what I sent you is a pretty nifty DIY way to remove them.



btw, Matco and Snap-On both make a tool for the removal as well.
tylus; can you show the "nifty DIY tool"
and any info on the "special socket" I hear about
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1 link is about that


the other link, go down to post 10



sorry I can't be of more help. It's not encouraged to link to other forums
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Success!!!!!

Thankfully this BS is OVER.... I was able to track down a pair of super long reach pliers that allowed me to pull out the center electrodes. I tried to pull them using the threaded rod loctited (648) and cured for almost 2 hours. Dam threaded rod pulled right out of the porcelin. So, out came a sharp pointed drift and a hammer. A couple hours later the remains of my 3 broken plugs were OUT!!!!

I was thrilled as I was putting my new plugs, Motorcrafts by the way, in. My truck now idles like new.

Thanks one and all for your help and all.

FYI, my truck is an 07 with 64K on the clock. I've not measured the gaps on the plugs that came out but they were huge, probably twice the new plugs. (come to think of it, I didn't check the new ones, ah hell, guess what ever Motorcraft set them at will be just fine.)
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Glad to hear you got them all out and your truck was only down a day! cool stuff!
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07 with 64,000 miles?



wow you drive alot. glad to hear they all came out okay
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Yup, I do.

Me too.
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(come to think of it, I didn't check the new ones, ah hell, guess what ever Motorcraft set them at will be just fine.)
I was browsing my owners manual this morning and came across a little note that said, spark plug gap is not adjustable on, I think it said, the 5.4 engine.
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