well, really old bleeder..... what did we make it of... I used tireless inflating nippel and hand pump for tire inflating, but I used to fill pump with fluid and fill all the system with one hand moving.....
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Boy, it seems the trouble never stops with the Ranger clutch..... I feel for you guys, as I also have a non-happy clutch as I have described above.
Pablo, thanks for the ideas. My clutch plate and slave are new, but I think they are non-standard in some way and I will have to take the tranny out and try to shim the slave toward the engine about 1/2 inch to get the whole thing to work. Also, my master is new and is identical in every way to the original.
As I mentioned above, I bled the bedeeges out of the clutch lines just like the recent guys above did and I still could not shift worth a hoot. Guess what? I did not have the time or place to take it all apart right now (maybe next month) so I studied the whole situtation and, while holding the master in my hand, I saw that the master cylinder stroke in my hand was longer than the m.c. stroke when installed on the pedal. So I used a dremel tool and cut 1/2" off the back of the pedal where it hit the floor. (I am not recommending this.) The cut was about 5 inches long or so. And now, at least, I can drive the truck as the extra 1/2" of master plunger downward movement pushes enough extra fluid to the slave now to almost get it where it needs to move. It engages about 3/4" off the floor but does not grind when I shift at an intersection.
It still is not satisfactory and I will have to take it all apart to shim the slave, in my opinion.
I also want to state my humble theory that the master cylinder does not need bleeding other than some strong pedal strokes after installation. I know this flies in the face of other's opinions that say air can get trapped in the upper part of the MC since it slopes up toward the steering wheel. But, after holding it and pushing it over and over and watching the stroke while holding it against a brick wall, I can see that the plunger internal to the MC goes all the way down to the outlet hole, so there is no way air can be trapped in the MC if you pump it like the shop manual says. The plunger pushes the air into the lines. My theory, therefore, is that Ford designed the fluid lines too large in inner diameter. Air can be trapped in the line and you can bleed for weeks and that air will not come out, the fluid just slides past it. You think that is not possible? I must differ, because I bled qty 3 of 12 oz fluid cans through the lines and had squishy, but when I bench bled the whole system I had bubbles come out and the pedal got hard.
The air is trapped in the lines until bench bled, and maybe the connector gets leaky over time as someone above stated causing more problems. It is not as hard as you would think to get the master and slave lines out of the truck and onto a bench all in one piece. Try it and cuss the first time and the second time will be easier.
So, I had 15 happy years with the Ranger before this and maybe happy days are ahead of me, but this clutch problem is frustrating.
Haha Fordopie you hit the nail on the head about the slave being frustrating as all get out the first time, but not so bad the second! I was about to throw a wrench into something breakable the first time, but the second time went pretty smoothly.
I finally got the transmission put back in Sunday. The clutch definately operates differently than before. It engages a bit too soon (or should I say disengages too late) for my liking, but it seems to be completely functional. The tranny makes a very slight whining noise under load that it didn't before, but I'm not too concerned about it. All in all, I think it was a success. Only time will tell
seems to me manual trannies are a bit exotic for North America. Here kids drive cars with manual trannies easily. when my friend from USA visited me here I was drunk and he drow my aero with 5 st tranny. I had some fun!
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seems to me manual trannies are a bit exotic for North America. Here kids drive cars with manual trannies easily. when my friend from USA visited me here I was drunk and he drow my aero with 5 st tranny. I had some fun!
I don't know what my next vehicle will be, but I promise you one thing...it will be a manual!
unfortunatly ford offer weak M5OD for ranger. stronger T5 is not available. to fit T5 ore tranny like T5 we used old A4LD bellhousings mashined with grinding mashine
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