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Old 04-06-2009, 06:28 PM
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Fuel Pump voltage

I am helping my neighbor get his 1989 f150 v8 running. It is getting spark, but no fuel pressure. The high pressure pump mounted inside the driver's frame rail was bad, (verified off the truck), I replaced it, but it is only getting 3.6 volts on the connector, and it needs 12 volts. Is there a fuel pump relay that would limit the voltage if bad? If so, how do I find it? If not, what else would reduce the voltage to the pump?
The truck has dual fuel tanks with a switch on the dash. The low pressure in-tank pumps are not pumping from the tanks to the high pressure pump either, perhaps due to low voltage.
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Old 04-06-2009, 06:57 PM
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I am helping my neighbor get his 1989 f150 v8 running. It is getting spark, but no fuel pressure. The high pressure pump mounted inside the driver's frame rail was bad, (verified off the truck), I replaced it, but it is only getting 3.6 volts on the connector, and it needs 12 volts. Is there a fuel pump relay that would limit the voltage if bad?
NO there is not.
The voltage you are looking at is zero not 3.6 Volts. You should not be using a volt meter in the fuel circuits. Use a test light and you will find it to be zero volts.
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If not, what else would reduce the voltage to the pump?
The Fuel pump relay is open and you are reading leakage from pin #8 of the EEC Computer.
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The truck has dual fuel tanks with a switch on the dash. The low pressure in-tank pumps are not pumping from the tanks to the high pressure pump either, perhaps due to low voltage.
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Check your Inertia Switch to see if it is open. If OK ground pin#6 of the self-test connector and turn on the key and see if the fuel pumps run.
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Bill, thank you. I have GM vehicles so my experience with Fords is minimal. I will check the inertia switch tomorrow. I understand it is on the inside firewall left of the brake pedal. Where is the self test connector located? If the fuel pumps run with the #6 pin grounded, what will that tell me?
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Bill, thank you. I have GM vehicles so my experience with Fords is minimal. I will check the inertia switch tomorrow. I understand it is on the inside firewall left of the brake pedal. Where is the self test connector located?
The self-test connector is named EEC Test in the photo below, it is under the cover. And is located on the drivers inter fender under the hood.
It is also called the Data Link Conn. or DLC in the second diagram.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...ays/89f150.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...taLinkConn.jpg

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The self-test connector is named EEC Test in the photo below, it is under the cover. And is located on the drivers inter fender under the hood.

It is also called the Data Link Conn. or DLC in the second diagram.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...ays/89f150.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...taLinkConn.jpg

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Thanks Bill. I believe I saw the EEC Test under the hood the other day on a strip with other connectors. If the pumps run with the #6 pin grounded, what does this mean?
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Thanks Bill. I believe I saw the EEC Test under the hood the other day on a strip with other connectors. If the pumps run with the #6 pin grounded, what does this mean?
Fred
It means that the:

1. You are getting Power from the EEC Power Relay to the Fuel Pump Relay Coil.
2. You are getting Power from the Fuse Link at the Starter Solenoid to the Fuel Pump contacts common pin.
3. You are getting Power from the Ignition Switch to the EEC Power relay Coil.
4. Fuel pump & EEC Power relays are OK.
5. Inertia Switch is OK.
6. Fuel Pump Selector Switch is OK.
7. Selected Fuel Pumps are OK.
8. The Wiring & Plugs are OK from the fuel pump relay to the pumps.
9. The Ground for the Pumps is OK.
10. You are getting Power from the Ignition Switch to the EEC Power relay Coil.

And you have just bypassed the EEC Computer so now you may need to look at the EEC Computer, its plug or the small black wire with a green stripe at the NEG (-) Post of the Battery and make sure it has a good ground (connection).
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Bill, thank you very much. I'm new to this forum, but belong to a Porsche forum and have received, as well as given, help often on that forum. Porsche is a very different animal and these forums are a blessing. You have taught me a lot about Ford's fuel systems in these few postings and I really appreciate you taking your time to help a Ford newbie!
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Your welcome and here is a wiring diagram of the 1989 F-series Fuel System:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...989FSeries.jpg

And a diagram of the fuel lines:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...FuelSystem.jpg

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