Rear Flexible Brake Hose
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Rear Flexible Brake Hose
My 77 f150 has a flexible black rubber line that is fastened to the axle with the vent tube. I have done an ENTIRE brake job on the old truck - everything but the hard metal lines (keeping fingers crossed they are ok - one of them had a hard time coming loose from the left rear wheel cylinder and I know it twisted a little - hope it holds). Anyway, here's the issue. The OEM flex hose has a block at the axle end that allows the two rear metal lines to connect at 45 degree angles. But the Raybestos rear hose got has a block that has the rear metal hose fittings coming off at 90 degrees. I am not confident that the old lines can be bent to reach. Is there another aftermarket hose that might be more true to the OEM (Ford) part???
Thanks.
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1976/79 F100/150 2WD Rear Brake Flexible Hose
My 77 f150 has a flexible black rubber line that is fastened to the axle with the vent tube. I have done an ENTIRE brake job on the old truck - everything but the hard metal lines (keeping fingers crossed they are ok - one of them had a hard time coming loose from the left rear wheel cylinder and I know it twisted a little - hope it holds). Anyway, here's the issue. The OEM flex hose has a block at the axle end that allows the two rear metal lines to connect at 45 degree angles. But the Raybestos rear hose got has a block that has the rear metal hose fittings coming off at 90 degrees. I am not confident that the old lines can be bent to reach. Is there another aftermarket hose that might be more true to the OEM (Ford) part???Thanks.
D8TZ2282C .. Rear Flexible Brake Hose / Obsolete / Fits 1976/79 F100/150 2WD.
DON SANDERSON FORD in Glendale AZ has EIGHT: 623-642-8762.
Sanderson has 1000's of obsolete parts, sells them for below their original dealer cost.
KINSEL L/M in Beaumont TX has TWO: 800-816-2894.
Kinsel has 1000's of obsolete parts, sells them at what was the last MSRP.
BOB ALLEN FORD in Overland Park KS has TWO: 800-676-0675.
Allen is a High Binder, don't expect any bargains.
RED TAYLOR FORD in Corning AR has ONE.
LARAMIE FORD in Laramie WY has ONE.
Don't expect any bargains from the following:
GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has NINE: 800-543-4959.
PARTS INTERNATIONAL in Farmers Branch TX has TWO: 888-727-0418.
WESLEY OBSOLETE PARTS in Liberty KY has ONE: 606-787-5293.
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thank you Bill for all those sources of the Ford part - now here might be the problem though: I just called a couple of the places, and the configuration of the hose has the left and right lines coming out at 90 degrees to the rubber inlet end. In other words, the Raybestos aftermarket part is correct. But the part that's on my truck (and I'm almost sure it's original, based on the way the metal lines look) has the outlets for the metal lines coming off at an angle. I'm wondering if Ford used another setup for this??
and after checking where I got it - their catalog - it looks like from the picture that the factory used the rear flexible hose for the 4WD F150 and not the one for the 2WD. Interesting. Also, the metal lines, for right and left wheel cylinders, are a direct fit into a 45 degree configuration rather than a 90 degree. Could the factory have substituted in the one for the 4WD even though my truck isn't 4WD??
and after checking where I got it - their catalog - it looks like from the picture that the factory used the rear flexible hose for the 4WD F150 and not the one for the 2WD. Interesting. Also, the metal lines, for right and left wheel cylinders, are a direct fit into a 45 degree configuration rather than a 90 degree. Could the factory have substituted in the one for the 4WD even though my truck isn't 4WD??
Last edited by alchemist1; 04-13-2009 at 01:06 PM. Reason: update
#4
I doubt you have a 4WD hose...at least as original.
D8TZ2282C is a Ford updated (1978) part number, so it may be slightly different than the original 1976/77 part.
The major problem with Ford has always been...they update 10's of 1000's of part numbers every year.
Keeping track of all these number changes was a full time job in itself.
In this case, some people will recognize that 1978 part number (D8 = 1978)...and wonder if it really fits earlier models.
It does. This updating of part numbers is why y'all cannot go by FoMoCo part number prefixes to ID the year the part fits.
D8TZ2282C is a Ford updated (1978) part number, so it may be slightly different than the original 1976/77 part.
The major problem with Ford has always been...they update 10's of 1000's of part numbers every year.
Keeping track of all these number changes was a full time job in itself.
In this case, some people will recognize that 1978 part number (D8 = 1978)...and wonder if it really fits earlier models.
It does. This updating of part numbers is why y'all cannot go by FoMoCo part number prefixes to ID the year the part fits.
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You mean you actually got the guy on the phone? Usually he's so busy you have to leave a message.
Only one person takes care of their obsolete parts sales.
I called them and Kinsel L/M several months to find out what their obsolete parts prices are.
NO one sells these parts as cheaply as Sanderson does. Kinsel goes by whatever the last list price was.
Bob Allen Ford in KS has tons of these parts, but thinks they're gold.
The facts are: Since the parts are obsolete, they can no longer be returned to Ford. So...the bottom line is...the dealers are STUCK with them until someone buys them.
Only one person takes care of their obsolete parts sales.
I called them and Kinsel L/M several months to find out what their obsolete parts prices are.
NO one sells these parts as cheaply as Sanderson does. Kinsel goes by whatever the last list price was.
Bob Allen Ford in KS has tons of these parts, but thinks they're gold.
The facts are: Since the parts are obsolete, they can no longer be returned to Ford. So...the bottom line is...the dealers are STUCK with them until someone buys them.
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Most of the citizens that live in AZ today moved there from some place else. Many are retirees.
This used to be true here in CA. At one time, a native Californian was somewhat rare...and it wasn't that long ago either.
We're known as a left wing state today, and it's because of all the liberals that moved here from the east to escape the snowy winters, or to work in Hollyweird.
The facts are, before 1970, CA was a conservative state, and still is outside of the LA and San Francisco metro areas.
This used to be true here in CA. At one time, a native Californian was somewhat rare...and it wasn't that long ago either.
We're known as a left wing state today, and it's because of all the liberals that moved here from the east to escape the snowy winters, or to work in Hollyweird.
The facts are, before 1970, CA was a conservative state, and still is outside of the LA and San Francisco metro areas.
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A lot like the southern US now. folks are flocking from the Northeast to move down here. Interesting... Lincoln's complete abuse of power back in the day (you name it, he did it, and illegally) and Northern States not wanting anything to do with the South, and now it has come around full circle. Try finding a real Southerner in Raleigh or Durham. Getting harder.
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A lot like the southern US now. folks are flocking from the Northeast to move down here. Interesting... Lincoln's complete abuse of power back in the day (you name it, he did it, and illegally) and Northern States not wanting anything to do with the South, and now it has come around full circle. Try finding a real Southerner in Raleigh or Durham. Getting harder.
The War for the Southern Confederacy was fought over States Rights, that Lincoln & Co. usurped.
btw: I've been to NC five different times.
Last May, the wife and I flew in/out of Charlotte then drove back/forth to Knoxville to attend the F100 SuperNats.
I've driven the entire Blue Ridge Parkway/Skyline Drive (both ways) from Front Royal VA to Cherokee.
I've also been to Carpenter's place in Concord, the RR museum, and most of the state except for the NE shore.
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I wonder how many people today really know what Lincoln's original plan inre to the slavery issue was.
The War for the Southern Confederacy was fought over States Rights, that Lincoln & Co. usurped.
btw: I've been to NC five different times.
Last May, the wife and I flew in/out of Charlotte then drove back/forth to Knoxville to attend the F100 SuperNats.
I've driven the entire Blue Ridge Parkway/Skyline Drive (both ways) from Front Royal VA to Cherokee.
I've also been to Carpenter's place in Concord, the RR museum, and most of the state except for the NE shore.
The War for the Southern Confederacy was fought over States Rights, that Lincoln & Co. usurped.
btw: I've been to NC five different times.
Last May, the wife and I flew in/out of Charlotte then drove back/forth to Knoxville to attend the F100 SuperNats.
I've driven the entire Blue Ridge Parkway/Skyline Drive (both ways) from Front Royal VA to Cherokee.
I've also been to Carpenter's place in Concord, the RR museum, and most of the state except for the NE shore.
Blue Ridge Parkway - classic drive. It doesn't get much better.
Interesting on Lincoln - I like the book, The Real Lincoln, by Thomas DiLorenzo. Although DiLorenzo is technically not a historian (he's an economist), he understands what Lincoln did and why.
Lincoln's quote to Douglas in the 1852 debate: If I could save the Union by freeing every slave, I would do it; if I could save the Union by freeing no slaves, I would do it.
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Hey Bill, it really looks like I have the hose from a 4WD. The only difference between that hose and the one for the 2WD is the angle that the two metal lines come off of the block that is bolted to the right top side of the axle. The pictures of two quality aftermarket hoses made by Bendix and Raybestos look spot on the one that is on my truck. Possibly someone even bent the original lines to fit. In any event, I hate to 're-bend' the lines back to their original condition since they are SO old.