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Old 03-25-2009, 05:59 PM
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2010 ford f15o raptor

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is is possible to get the suspension from the 2010 trucks on an 07?

or anybody know of a place to get a baja race kit for a 07 without having to sell my soul first
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camburg makes a kit similar to the kit on the raptor....

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haha yea i have talked to ryan from camburg on 2 occasions before good people great products ... if you have a 2WD

i think there 4x4 kits arnt that bad price wise but they dont do much but beef it up. i dont know about more travel
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Raptor was a great idea. But Ford stupidly will only make it in a Supercab. And with the price hike it's gonna see...well it's gonna be outside the price ranges of most people who will want one. Ford should have marketed it to the 25-40 yr old with multiple kids. Supercab just doesn't cut the mustard when you have to put kids in the backseat.



btw, the suspension in the front is identical from a 04 to an 09 model. They use stamped steel now for the lower a-arms, but it's all the same. The rear end has longer leafs, so it may require some custom fab to make Raptor stuff fit our trucks.


to be honest, the Raptor is an awesome idea, but the only real reason to buy one IMO is for the body package and the 6.2 motor. You can build a similarly able F-150 for $10-15,000 cheaper that will perform admirably in most 4x4 situations....except Baja of course.
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Raptor was a great idea. But Ford stupidly will only make it in a Supercab. And with the price hike it's gonna see...well it's gonna be outside the price ranges of most people who will want one. Ford should have marketed it to the 25-40 yr old with multiple kids. Supercab just doesn't cut the mustard when you have to put kids in the backseat.



btw, the suspension in the front is identical from a 04 to an 09 model. They use stamped steel now for the lower a-arms, but it's all the same. The rear end has longer leafs, so it may require some custom fab to make Raptor stuff fit our trucks.


to be honest, the Raptor is an awesome idea, but the only real reason to buy one IMO is for the body package and the 6.2 motor. You can build a similarly able F-150 for $10-15,000 cheaper that will perform admirably in most 4x4 situations....except Baja of course.
basically what i plan on doing haha
im going to get the same exact motor as in a GT buy a top of the line suspension then drive it to baja and have to tow it home
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Raptor was a great idea. But Ford stupidly will only make it in a Supercab. And with the price hike it's gonna see...well it's gonna be outside the price ranges of most people who will want one. Ford should have marketed it to the 25-40 yr old with multiple kids. Supercab just doesn't cut the mustard when you have to put kids in the backseat.


to be honest, the Raptor is an awesome idea, but the only real reason to buy one IMO is for the body package and the 6.2 motor. You can build a similarly able F-150 for $10-15,000 cheaper that will perform admirably in most 4x4 situations....except Baja of course.
I think why they wouldnt market the Raptor to 25-40yr olds with kids, is because they market that "similiarly able F150 for 10-15k cheaper" to the family man. Its a specialty truck and they probably dont expect to see really high sales numbers. I mean (IMO of course) who would buy a baja race truck to haul the kiddies to walmart. Same thing goes for a Corvette, you cant haul a family around in one of them, but they still sell and they come with a pretty high price tag.
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in that case, why not make it only available in the reg cab?

look at the average income. most people who can afford this truck will be the established family guy in his early to mid thirties. And the majority of these people will walk right by the Raptor for the Screw...for the reasons you said. A practical vehicle that will be at least $10k cheaper


It's like when Ford debutted the Lightning. Awesome idea and did pretty good on it's own. Then they intro'd the HD (tame Lightning) and the sales were outstanding. There are lots of grown-up kids out there who want a fun vehicle, but it needs to serve a dual purpose of family vehicle as well.

I think Ford really screwed up with the Raptor decision. Hopefully the market can support sales of the Raptor enough that it stays...and then maybe Ford will make it a Screw. Otherwise, I'll have to build one myself. Be damned if I pay $40-45,000 for a SCAB that I cannot use
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in that case, why not make it only available in the reg cab?

look at the average income. most people who can afford this truck will be the established family guy in his early to mid thirties. And the majority of these people will walk right by the Raptor for the Screw...for the reasons you said. A practical vehicle that will be at least $10k cheaper


It's like when Ford debutted the Lightning. Awesome idea and did pretty good on it's own. Then they intro'd the HD (tame Lightning) and the sales were outstanding. There are lots of grown-up kids out there who want a fun vehicle, but it needs to serve a dual purpose of family vehicle as well.

I think Ford really screwed up with the Raptor decision. Hopefully the market can support sales of the Raptor enough that it stays...and then maybe Ford will make it a Screw. Otherwise, I'll have to build one myself. Be damned if I pay $40-45,000 for a SCAB that I cannot use
Im not sure why they didnt make it a reg cab, I guess the Scab was a compromise so that it could carry people if it needed to.

As for the average income. I dont know what the average income is like in the USA, I would imagine its fairly low(no offense intended).

The Lightning, if Im not mistaken, was a reg cab. Seeing as it did fairly well, I dont see why the Raptor wouldn't follow that path. Maybe in a few years they will bring out a Screw Raptor equivalent of some sort(as per the HD example)

They may be assuming that the family man thats interested in this vehicle, has a wife with a 4 door car/suv or minivan. Thus allowing the husband to purchase this toy.
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the reason for the super cab is to make the center of gravity more towards the bed of the truck

its hard to explain at least for me

all the weight in the front and a short wheel base sits the COG around the driver seat area but by adding 2 feet to the back of the cab and 200 or so pounds back there it moves it to behind the driver. thats much better under handling and more importantly during take offs and the landings =] (im sure they do MUCH more to the raptor to help this even more)

theres a video of a short cab short bed ranger I4 jumping bone stock and it nose dives like a special Olympics swimmer. same thing would happen to the raptor if it was a SWB truck.

its not for the fam or the space or the posh

its for

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the reason for the super cab is to make the center of gravity more towards the bed of the truck

its hard to explain at least for me

all the weight in the front and a short wheel base sits the COG around the driver seat area but by adding 2 feet to the back of the cab and 200 or so pounds back there it moves it to behind the driver. thats much better under handling and more importantly during take offs and the landings =] (im sure they do MUCH more to the raptor to help this even more)

theres a video of a short cab short bed ranger I4 jumping bone stock and it nose dives like a special Olympics swimmer. same thing would happen to the raptor if it was a SWB truck.

its not for the fam or the space or the posh

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the airborn
a crew cab would push the center of gravity farther backwards.

sorry, but saying it's to have a rear heavy center of gravity doesn't jive. the crew cabs add an additional 1.5' of length and 100-200 lbs vs the Scab
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a crew cab would push the center of gravity farther backwards.

sorry, but saying it's to have a rear heavy center of gravity doesn't jive. the crew cabs add an additional 1.5' of length and 100-200 lbs vs the Scab
well all i know is that if you look up the sportsman class a high percentage of trucks will be the screw
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