Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Newer Light Duty Trucks > Expedition & Navigator
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


Expedition & Navigator 1997 - 2002 and 2003 - 2006 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator SPONSORED BY:

Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-13-2009, 09:06 PM
nosyguy nosyguy is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1
nosyguy is starting off with a positive reputation.
Loud Click in rear of expedition

I have a mind numbing loud click in back of my expedition. It is located in the driver's side rear interior. It is completely steady (electrical relay) and is coming from the area between the rear passenger door and the rear a/c heating fan. I have removed the panel that allows you to access the fan but the rest is enclosed.

In diagnosing the problem I began systematically removing fuses from electrical compenents in the rear area of the vehicle. Then I found it! Fuse 23 which is the 10A fuse for "Aux A/C, Heated Seats, Trailer Tow Battery Charge, Turn/Hazard Flasher, 4X4 Clutch Relay, Overhead Console, E/C Mirror, 4 Wheel Anti-lock brake system (4WABS) Module.

So the question... which of these would cause the LOUD click? I am leaning towards the 4X4 Clutch Relay because of some other little trans anomolies I notice, except that I don't know if this is the general location of that relay or if it is down at the transfer case, etc... I know very little of trans, much less 4x4.

Help Please!!!

TIA
Nosyguy
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-25-2011, 05:20 AM
mycroft mycroft is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 5
mycroft is starting off with a positive reputation.
I suppose I have the same problem and partly satisfying solution to it.
My diagnostics attempts showed, that the noise is related to setting of rear climate control overhead/floor switch. There might be some sort of conflict between the driver's and passengers' control panel. There are certain combinations that make the sound come on and some combinations, that make it come off.
It is still annoying, that I can't set the climate control freely, but at least, there is a way how to turn off that bloody noise.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-25-2011, 09:08 AM
alwaysfords41's Avatar
alwaysfords41 alwaysfords41 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,812
alwaysfords41 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mycroft View Post
I suppose I have the same problem and partly satisfying solution to it.
My diagnostics attempts showed, that the noise is related to setting of rear climate control overhead/floor switch. There might be some sort of conflict between the driver's and passengers' control panel. There are certain combinations that make the sound come on and some combinations, that make it come off.
It is still annoying, that I can't set the climate control freely, but at least, there is a way how to turn off that bloody noise.
Are you sure your noise isn't on the passenger side? What you describe sounds like a blend door actuator for the rear HVAC. The floor/ceiling actuator is a snap to get at to disconnect and/or replace.
__________________
2010 Expedition Limited now @ 27k
2012 Expedition Limited now @ 28k
Gone but not forgotten;
1995 Bronco XLT, 1996 Explorer XLT, 1999 Expedition EB, 2003 Expedition EB, 2004 Expedition EB Premium
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-25-2011, 10:13 AM
Big Greenie Big Greenie is offline
Temporarily Deactivated
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 969
Big Greenie is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Nothing in the 4wd system would cause the noise you are hearing. The other guys have you on the right track, sounds like a rear HVAC issue. Shop manuals would be priceless in this case.
__________________
1999 Expedition XLT, big and green, 5.4, 4x4, 285/70-17 Dunlop MT's, factory skid plates, magnaflow muffler. 1998 Ranger 4.0 ext cab 4x4 Girlfriends truck.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-26-2011, 03:02 AM
mycroft mycroft is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 5
mycroft is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysfords41 View Post
Are you sure your noise isn't on the passenger side? What you describe sounds like a blend door actuator for the rear HVAC. The floor/ceiling actuator is a snap to get at to disconnect and/or replace.
I just checked again and you are right. The rhythmical continuous deep click noise comes from the starboard (passenger's side). Sorry for misleading and thank for encouraging tip, I'll have a look at it. :-)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-26-2011, 08:43 AM
alwaysfords41's Avatar
alwaysfords41 alwaysfords41 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,812
alwaysfords41 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mycroft View Post
I just checked again and you are right. The rhythmical continuous deep click noise comes from the starboard (passenger's side). Sorry for misleading and thank for encouraging tip, I'll have a look at it. :-)

If it is the floor to ceiling selection that changes the noise, that is the easier of the two actuators to change. Pull the little change tray out from on top of the wheel arch in the back and look for a little beige box. The tray is held in by little barbs, so flex it along the long side by pulling it towards the center, and work it off from there. If it is a bib bother, you can just unplug it for now and fix it later. In either event, it is a quick job.
__________________
2010 Expedition Limited now @ 27k
2012 Expedition Limited now @ 28k
Gone but not forgotten;
1995 Bronco XLT, 1996 Explorer XLT, 1999 Expedition EB, 2003 Expedition EB, 2004 Expedition EB Premium
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-26-2011, 09:00 AM
Mark250 Mark250 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Carthage, Mo
Posts: 441
Mark250 is starting off with a positive reputation.
I had a very similar noise on my Mountaineer. It was a plastic piece stripped in the blend door actuator & the motor kept running all the time.
__________________
"Only little boys wear bowties..."

2002 F-350 BFT Sport SC 4x4 SRW, black monochrome, 7.3, AIS & fender sleeve, Zoodad, 4" turbo-back, Hpx, In-tank pickup mods, Harpooned, 6.0 AND stock trans cooler, 2008 diff cover. Autometer ES gauges, DP Tuner with lots of tunes, 2010 Mariner Premier, 1999 Ranger XLT 4-banger
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-26-2011, 11:00 AM
mycroft mycroft is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 5
mycroft is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysfords41 View Post
If it is the floor to ceiling selection that changes the noise, that is the easier of the two actuators to change. Pull the little change tray out from on top of the wheel arch in the back and look for a little beige box. The tray is held in by little barbs, so flex it along the long side by pulling it towards the center, and work it off from there. If it is a bib bother, you can just unplug it for now and fix it later. In either event, it is a quick job.
I found your older post on that topic. It seems, that I'll need this: Dorman 604-202 - Heater Blend Door Actuator | O'Reilly Auto Parts
Thanks a lot for your help. :-)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-26-2011, 07:41 PM
rvbuilder2002 rvbuilder2002 is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 79
rvbuilder2002 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mycroft View Post
I found your older post on that topic. It seems, that I'll need this: Dorman 604-202 - Heater Blend Door Actuator | O'Reilly Auto Parts
Thanks a lot for your help. :-)
You need that one if the failed actuator is the one for the blend air door.
If you need the one for the ceiling / floor diverter door it is a different #. I think it is 604-209. I just ordered one from Rock Auto for about $42 with shipping.
__________________
2004 Eddie Bauer (with ever factory option known to man, except air suspension... thankfully)
5.4 L 4WD
130,XXX + Miles
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-28-2011, 08:46 AM
mycroft mycroft is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 5
mycroft is starting off with a positive reputation.
Well, what a confusion.
It seems to me, like it easily could be Dorman nr. 604213 which bears the very same description "cross-shaped shaft" as the original FORD/MOTORCRAFT part YH-1743 (http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/Re...1&plugin=false as seen here under code: 19E616).
It is quite important for me because I am about to order the part from the other side of Atlantic ocean, I would rather order the correct one, as I will pay dearly for the delivery and it takes quite a while too.
I am actually thinking about "plan B" as well.
I will check the option of replacing plastic wheels mechanism which causes the trouble with metal wheels if I can manage to get correct sizes. Is it complete nonsense? What you reckon?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-29-2011, 08:18 AM
tseekins's Avatar
tseekins tseekins is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hampton, Virginia
Posts: 20,080
tseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by mycroft View Post
Well, what a confusion.
It seems to me, like it easily could be Dorman nr. 604213 which bears the very same description "cross-shaped shaft" as the original FORD/MOTORCRAFT part YH-1743 (http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/Re...1&plugin=false as seen here under code: 19E616).
It is quite important for me because I am about to order the part from the other side of Atlantic ocean, I would rather order the correct one, as I will pay dearly for the delivery and it takes quite a while too.
I am actually thinking about "plan B" as well.
I will check the option of replacing plastic wheels mechanism which causes the trouble with metal wheels if I can manage to get correct sizes. Is it complete nonsense? What you reckon?
That's the one. It's the front mounted actuator that is a little harder to get to but still not real difficult. The two actuators are not interchangeable. The front one that you described a little more expensive at the dealer.
__________________
Tim
SCPO United States Coast Guard Retired
2011 F-150 XLT 4x4 Ecoboost
2010 Ford Focus
2004 Expedition XLT 4x2

FTE Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-29-2011, 07:12 PM
rvbuilder2002 rvbuilder2002 is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 79
rvbuilder2002 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tseekins View Post
That's the one. It's the front mounted actuator that is a little harder to get to but still not real difficult. The two actuators are not interchangeable. The front one that you described a little more expensive at the dealer.
No offense intended, but this type of information is what makes it difficult to determine what information in on line forums is correct and what isn't.

The front (also top) actuator is actually the easy one to replace...on a 2003 or newer Gen. 2 Expy anyway. Maybe on the Gen 1 (2002 and older) it is different. That,s why it is important to mention what year you are talking about.
__________________
2004 Eddie Bauer (with ever factory option known to man, except air suspension... thankfully)
5.4 L 4WD
130,XXX + Miles
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-29-2011, 08:06 PM
tseekins's Avatar
tseekins tseekins is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hampton, Virginia
Posts: 20,080
tseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002 View Post
No offense intended, but this type of information is what makes it difficult to determine what information in on line forums is correct and what isn't.

The front (also top) actuator is actually the easy one to replace...on a 2003 or newer Gen. 2 Expy anyway. Maybe on the Gen 1 (2002 and older) it is different. That,s why it is important to mention what year you are talking about.
Not offended sir but to clarify myself, I used the term front as this was the term used by the Ford dealer's parts guy. He referred to them as the "top" and the "front". I'm not a tech or a mechanic. Simply using terminology used at the dealer. Additionally, in my signature, I have listed a 2004 Expedition. Simply trying to be helpful and to demystify this all too often recurring issue with this generation of Expeditions.

So, to anyone who is interested. Once you remove a couple of plastic trim pieces and pull back the large piece of plastic that covers the rear unit on the passenger side, you'll see just how simple it really is.
__________________
Tim
SCPO United States Coast Guard Retired
2011 F-150 XLT 4x4 Ecoboost
2010 Ford Focus
2004 Expedition XLT 4x2

FTE Guidelines
Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2011, 08:06 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My electric remlin...Maybe this will help someone Keepitrunnin Super Duty & Heavy Duty 1 12-25-2014 08:22 PM
1999 Expedition Turn Signal/Hazard problem johnkirk Expedition & Navigator 39 06-29-2014 03:06 AM
92 F-150 No Illumination or Guage Lights Muddbugn1 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 3 08-22-2013 09:01 PM
Electrical Germlin,, HAH,,,More like an Oger Luthier Electrical Systems/Wiring 28 09-30-2012 07:51 PM
05 Expy - rear A/C noise Kep4 Expedition & Navigator 3 05-28-2008 08:30 AM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Newer Light Duty Trucks > Expedition & Navigator

Tags
1999, 2004, 2006, 2008, ac, back, click, clicking, electrical, expedition, ford, interior, loud, rear, relay

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


Participate In The Forums

Create new posts and participate in discussions. It's free!

Sign Up »





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup