Ya, SOHC is having a come back, but it will be for people with really deep pockets.
Something that has really peaked my interests is the mod motors with intake adapters for anything you like(carbs or blowers) and are turn key for $10K? Complete with stand alone computer to run it.
I'm surely not a mod motor type guy, but for "cool" factor and easy bolt in they do look the part. They have them on display at Columbus every year.
Larry, having had two 4.6L's, and a V10, I have to say for all-around drivability, and reliability, they are top-notch Ford products. They have had their faults at certain times, but what doesn't?
What's so interesting is the power levels coming out of them with superchargers.
For instance, the V10's only known weak-link that can't be gotten around by changing pistons and rods, is the crank snout in high-output blower applications.
The crank snout is known to break off when driving a big blower when you are really cranking up the HP. Someone makes a support bearing for it, and then there's really nothing it can't do.
The V10 is a 6-bolt main. 4-bolts in the regular positions, and cross-bolted with two more. The deep-skirt block is very much like the FE.
What crank squirm?
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Just have to watch keeping spark plugs from blowing out. Don't think it's a problem unless you left them in too long, then stripped part of the threads getting them out.
I had a '99 CC DRW V10 5spd/4.30 new, loved it, pulled my trailer effortlessly. A friend has had 5.4 pickups since '97? Gets 2-3 yr leases and they run like raped apes. He was always pleased with power to pull his open trailer/race car.
Our shop pickup has 5.4 with just under 200K on it, never touched. Try getting that out of an FE back in the day!! LOL!!!
Just have to watch keeping spark plugs from blowing out. Don't think it's a problem unless you left them in too long, then stripped part of the threads getting them out.
Exactly. They also upped the thread counts in later years, here's a list if anyone is interested.
December 1996 - 4.6L 4V alignment feature added
February 1997 - 4.6L 2V head alignment feature added
September 2000 - WEP (Windsor Engine Plant) 2V head alignment feature modified (4.6/5.4/6.8)
November 2002 - WEP introduced long thread heads on 2V (all)
May 2003 - REP (Romeo Engine Plant) introduced long-thread heads on 4V 4.6 and 5.4
November 2003 - REP introduced long-thread heads on 2V and modified alignment feature
In 1999, and 2001, an interim fix was done for a cross-threading issue.
Original process:
Step 1 - Zero torque spark plug (air tool)
Step 2 - Torque to 16-20Nm final torque (DC Run down), monitor at 6-12Nm, and final torque must be reached within 0-360 degrees.
New process (addressed the possibility of applying installation torque for more than 25 degrees of rotation)
Step 1 - Zero torque spark plug (air tool)
Step 2 - Torque to 16-20Nm final torque (DC Run down) start monitor at 6-12Nm, and final torque must be reached within 3-25 degrees.
Another action to address cross-threading was the addition of an alignment feature to lead the plug into the hole.
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Yeah Glenn and I were talking about this same thing the other day ..and those Mod motors are getting some real attention... In the Pro class the only guys that stand a chance to put them on the trailer are the guys running the BBF Mountain motors ..Like Kaase's 815" N/A motors... So thats saying a hell of alot for 261"s and a couple of hair dryers !! Or 1 big 106MM Turbo...
And the thing is back in the day..Dating myself here..was the big problem of Turbo lag..Is now a thing of the past..and a hell of alot easier on parts from the sudden shock of NOS !!
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Funny, how the modulars are deep-skirt like the FE's, and cross-bolted from the factory.
They did over-engineer the blocks to some degree. But I think the aluminum blocks are still stronger than the plain-jane cast-iron ones.
And Russ, turbo lag doesn't "date" you - what would date you is talking about buying a Kaiser with a blower
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Well Art..i dont go back that FAR !! My first ride that was turboed was a 63 Corvair Spyder.... I think I was 13 at the time I bought it with a blown up Turbo in it..But the car was cherry..Burgundy in color and red interior..and the factory spoke wheels (SS hub caps) LOL..
well at that I had to replace the Clutch-pressure plate , and buy a rebuild kit for the turbo....Hence the Cheap price for the car..as the parts were $500 back then.. But it Ran like a raped Ape.. I never got my Azz beat buy any of the Built Vdubs (with 1835cc's motors, at that time, I would come out od 3rd. at 90mph..and it would still pull hard....
And then Ralph Snyder said they would flip over on the road..real easy..So the collector market for them went down the tubes!! And I also think they were under rated for HP at that time also...
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Well Art..i dont go back that FAR !! My first ride that was turboed was a 63 Corvair Spyder....
Ah, that Kaiser I was talking about was only 9 years earlier than that Corvair
My father had a Corvair - when I was like 5 years old (1970-71).
He was always trying to play catch-up with the VW Beetles on the highway. So you can imagine he did NOT have the turbo version
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Yeah, I remember when my father reacted to that "unsafe at any speed" thing.
I still wonder to this day, how many other cars out there would do the same thing under the same conditions.
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If you watch the film real close and paid attention to the driver and what he was doing, you would see what really happened. Driver induced so Nader, a lawyer, could tell his lie and make his name.
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No worse then SUV's today being "unsafe". It's the driver that makes it unsafe. Remember couple years back they had all kinds of stories about it. They made it up to be all that. Then, someone on a show did a test with an older Explorer. They rigged up a device to quickly drop air from a rear tire(maybe it was front?). They couldn't MAKE it swerve or crash. One finger control, no hands, it went straight and it had 100K miles on it so it wasn't tight.
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No worse then SUV's today being "unsafe". It's the driver that makes it unsafe. Remember couple years back they had all kinds of stories about it. They made it up to be all that. Then, someone on a show did a test with an older Explorer. They rigged up a device to quickly drop air from a rear tire(maybe it was front?). They couldn't MAKE it swerve or crash. One finger control, no hands, it went straight and it had 100K miles on it so it wasn't tight.
Just like guns> They don't kill, people do.
That was Car and Driver magazine. They dumped one of the rear tires, can't remember which one, but it was the one most often lost in the rollovers. Results were as you say, it stayed straight at 70 mph. Ford reproduced the article and sent it to Exploder owners. (I got one)
Early Corvair and VW had IRS that allowed the tire to tuck under. Corvair also changed from understeer to oversteer at 25 or so mph. There was a Corvair vs. Falcon film shot by Ford, I think. The Corvair goes off the road, allowing the Falcon to plow on.... Then the Corvair gets back on the track, and easily catches up to the Falcon through the corners etc. Depending on how you edit it, it makes or breaks the case, methinks.
The Corvair is one of the main reasons manufactureres make sure their cars understeer, even if they aren't suffering from it already.
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