1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  

Stage 1 supporting mods

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 02-27-2009, 04:40 PM
F250Growler's Avatar
F250Growler
F250Growler is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Stage 1 supporting mods

What all needs to be on my truck to support stage 1 injectors.. i have intake and dp.. I am buying a DP tuner. Do i have to worry about turbo, and transmission and head studs and all the other stuff like stage II's?

Are stage ones good to just plug and chug with the stuff i have now? plus a tuner?
 
  #2  
Old 02-27-2009, 05:09 PM
KevinC.'s Avatar
KevinC.
KevinC. is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Ocala
Posts: 657
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just get a chip burned for stage 1's and youre good to go.
 
  #3  
Old 02-27-2009, 05:17 PM
jimwilsonmasonry's Avatar
jimwilsonmasonry
jimwilsonmasonry is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: indy
Posts: 644
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
you might want to get at least a superduty hpop some tranny work like a tranny cooler a shift kit maybe tc and a turbo your turbo and tranny will eventually go if nothing is done about it
 
  #4  
Old 02-27-2009, 05:22 PM
KevinC.'s Avatar
KevinC.
KevinC. is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Ocala
Posts: 657
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thats true about the trans, I never think about people having autos since I have a manual. But I believe it is Rosewood who has tranny saver injectors. They keep them just below stage 1's so you dont need tranny work.
 
  #5  
Old 02-27-2009, 06:19 PM
glasseater's Avatar
glasseater
glasseater is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: hillsborough nj
Posts: 1,842
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
just a get trans valve body, possibly an HPOP (barely any difference with 1s), your dptuner tuned for the 1s, D66 (the stock turbo WILL die some day), and you're good to go
 
  #6  
Old 02-27-2009, 08:03 PM
FARM69's Avatar
FARM69
FARM69 is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kearney, Nebr
Posts: 3,207
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You will definitely need a pyrometer if your running aftermarket tunes...
 
  #7  
Old 02-27-2009, 08:07 PM
glasseater's Avatar
glasseater
glasseater is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: hillsborough nj
Posts: 1,842
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by FARM69
You will definitely need a pyrometer if your running aftermarket tunes...
oh wow i completely forgot about gauges
 
  #8  
Old 02-27-2009, 08:59 PM
powerstroked162's Avatar
powerstroked162
powerstroked162 is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ellensburg, Washington
Posts: 3,658
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
intake, exhaust, downpipe, gauges, tuner, and a VB. Baby oil isn't necessary with stage 1's or even 2's but it is a nice upgrade you will benefit from but is not necessary right away. Tranny work should be done if you'd like to save yourself alot of money in the long run. Its either do some preventative maintenance now with a VB and a nice single disk convertor from PI with a nice sized tranny cooler or wait til the thing goes south completely and rebuild the trans for twice as much. I believe CoonhunterJoe has a nice little inexpensive VB mod that works very nice from what I have heard from several users. Maybe PM him. As far as turbo's go, you don't need an upgrade right away either but like the baby oil it is a nice upgrade you will definitely benefit from in the end. It all about what you can afford, but gauges, tuner, intake, exhaust and downpipe are basically mandatory upgrades for any injector sized over stock fuel levels... after that its up to you what you can afford to add on..... and before I forget, an InterCooler is a very nice upgrade

Also, I have never heard of anyone needing headstuds with stage 2's on stock turbo's or even a d66. Not enough boosht to lift the heads with those chargers...... at least I've never heard of it happening

Cowboy Steve
 
  #9  
Old 02-27-2009, 11:45 PM
jimwilsonmasonry's Avatar
jimwilsonmasonry
jimwilsonmasonry is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: indy
Posts: 644
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[Thats true about the trans, I never think about people having autos since I have a manual. But I believe it is Rosewood who has tranny saver injectors. They keep them just below stage 1's so you dont need tranny work. ] all stage 1 means is stock nozzles you can get them machined to flow whatever you want
 
  #10  
Old 02-28-2009, 12:58 AM
powerstroked162's Avatar
powerstroked162
powerstroked162 is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ellensburg, Washington
Posts: 3,658
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jimwilsonmasonry
[Thats true about the trans, I never think about people having autos since I have a manual. But I believe it is Rosewood who has tranny saver injectors. They keep them just below stage 1's so you dont need tranny work. ] all stage 1 means is stock nozzles you can get them machined to flow whatever you want
Stock nozzles off of what?...... And Bean is the only one I know of that sells tranny savers. I dont and haven't and haven't seen a tranny saver injector kit from DIY as of yet

Cowboy Steve
 
  #11  
Old 02-28-2009, 06:31 AM
DZL JIM's Avatar
DZL JIM
DZL JIM is offline
PREMIUM SPONSOR
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: North East Ohio
Posts: 2,611
Received 183 Likes on 83 Posts
BDP holds the 'Tranny Saver' name.
I've done many sets and put together many custom DIY Kits to make 130 - 140cc Stage-1's.
To me, I'd go with the regular 160cc and just burn the chip with lower hp burns. It's cheaper and easier to reburn your chip than to bump the injectors up again.

Stage-1's will eat a stock torque converter if you're on the throttle all the time.
 
__________________
'96 7.3 F-350 Reg Cab 4x4 - bought new.
'04 6.0 E-350 custom 4x4
'08 6.4 F-550 Reg Cab 6 spd 4x4
'17 6.7 F-250 KR ccsb 4x4
  #12  
Old 02-28-2009, 11:20 AM
powerstroked162's Avatar
powerstroked162
powerstroked162 is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ellensburg, Washington
Posts: 3,658
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DZL JIM
BDP holds the 'Tranny Saver' name.
I've done many sets and put together many custom DIY Kits to make 130 - 140cc Stage-1's.
To me, I'd go with the regular 160cc and just burn the chip with lower hp burns. It's cheaper and easier to reburn your chip than to bump the injectors up again.

Stage-1's will eat a stock torque converter if you're on the throttle all the time.
I didn't know you built anything under stage 1's. Why no kit on DIY.com?....

How's the 38r install going by the way Jim?

Cowboy Steve
 
  #13  
Old 02-28-2009, 12:24 PM
tjbeggs's Avatar
tjbeggs
tjbeggs is offline
Post Fiend

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Silver Lake Dunes, MI
Posts: 12,835
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by powerstroked162
I didn't know you built anything under stage 1's. Why no kit on DIY.com?....

How's the 38r install going by the way Jim?

Cowboy Steve
Steve I am guessing that the reason Jim doesn't have a DIY kit is cause the only difference between a 130 and 160 would be how much you machine off the intensified piston. No change in the kit just a change on the users end.
 
  #14  
Old 02-28-2009, 01:35 PM
powerstroked162's Avatar
powerstroked162
powerstroked162 is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ellensburg, Washington
Posts: 3,658
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by tjbeggs
Steve I am guessing that the reason Jim doesn't have a DIY kit is cause the only difference between a 130 and 160 would be how much you machine off the intensified piston. No change in the kit just a change on the users end.
Makes sense I suppose. Im sure Jim would supply the specs of how much to machine off for this application upon request by a customer seeking tranny savers.

Cowboy Steve
 
  #15  
Old 02-28-2009, 09:19 PM
jimwilsonmasonry's Avatar
jimwilsonmasonry
jimwilsonmasonry is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: indy
Posts: 644
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by powerstroked162
Makes sense I suppose. Im sure Jim would supply the specs of how much to machine off for this application upon request by a customer seeking tranny savers.

Cowboy Steve
never its a secret lol
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Krazymaan
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
8
07-16-2011 09:29 AM
VegasFordSD
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
36
03-31-2011 06:33 PM
redone1
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
6
07-12-2009 12:31 PM
stacking
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
04-04-2008 08:35 AM
fordzilla01
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
32
11-09-2007 08:17 PM



Quick Reply: Stage 1 supporting mods



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 AM.