Camaro - Page 2

wendell borror · #16 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 12:47 PM

My nose fits nicely up fords butt, "thankyou"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lew52 · #17 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 12:49 PM

I like the 67-70 stangs & The 86-93.. Fox body 5.0 stangs...Any one whows driven a nice 302 stang knows what im talking about ..

fonefiddy · #18 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 12:57 PM

Huh...the GM 310 HP NA V6 is pretty darned close to the Ford Turbo V8. Gm has years of experience with supercharging V6's.

I don't see a problem with the Gov. and the Camaro. They already have over 11K orders for the car. It's going to sell pretty well for them.

When the Camaro SS/RS comes out with the 425 HP V8,We'll see what Ford offers in the Shelby. As for now, the Camaro beats the Mustang in HP, and handling. As it always has.

Plus the Camaro can under cut the Shelby 500 by about $10K. For the $80K Ford is asking for the Shelby 500 KR, I'd Buy a Corvette ZR1 and have 615HP, MUCH better handling, and $25+K left over.

ghunt · #19 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fonefiddy

As for now, the Camaro beats the Mustang in HP, and handling. As it always has.

Yeah and look how good it sold back in the 90's and early 00's

4wheelfurry · #20 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 02:30 PM

I really don't like the new C at all. Never have been a great big fan of the Mustang either. The Challenger is my top pick and the 5.7/6.1 engines have really proven themselves too. Interior is still crap though... My list would read (1) Challenger (2) Mustang (3 - very distant) Maro

aortizexcursion · #21 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fonefiddy

Huh...the GM 310 HP NA V6 is pretty darned close to the Ford Turbo V8. Gm has years of experience with supercharging V6's.

I don't see a problem with the Gov. and the Camaro. They already have over 11K orders for the car. It's going to sell pretty well for them.

When the Camaro SS/RS comes out with the 425 HP V8,We'll see what Ford offers in the Shelby. As for now, the Camaro beats the Mustang in HP, and handling. As it always has.

Plus the Camaro can under cut the Shelby 500 by about $10K. For the $80K Ford is asking for the Shelby 500 KR, I'd Buy a Corvette ZR1 and have 615HP, MUCH better handling, and $25+K left over.

Your claiming the Camaro handles better than the Mustang. So I'm going to assume for you to have reached that conclusion you must have driven the Camaro...

fonefiddy · #22 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 07:32 PM

Nah, just reporting what the auto press has said. It will out handle the Mustang. Why in the heck they went with a solid axle, is anybodies guess.

Heck, the way they touted the IRS in the Escape, You'd think they'd have learned?

aortizexcursion · #23 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fonefiddy

Nah, just reporting what the auto press has said. It will out handle the Mustang. Why in the heck they went with a solid axle, is anybodies guess.

Heck, the way they touted the IRS in the Escape, You'd think they'd have learned?

Where do you expect them to come up with the money to develop, engineer, and implement a IRS on the Mustang? The solid rear axle is cheap and Ford has it pretty well sorted for what it is.

Unfortunately, RWD muscle cars are not Ford's number one priority right now...

fonefiddy · #24 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 08:16 PM

Umm, they developed a complete new chassis, from the ground up? It would have been easy to include it. If they'd have included it from the start?

aortizexcursion · #25 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fonefiddy

Umm, they developed a complete new chassis, from the ground up? It would have been easy to include it. If they'd have included it from the start?

I'll say it again. It's all about money now and in 2005 when the Mustang was totally redesigned.

It's not that easy to simply "include" it.

fonefiddy · #26 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 08:58 PM

It would have been easy when the Mustang was still on paper.

aortizexcursion · #27 (**permalink**) 02-16-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fonefiddy

It would have been easy when the Mustang was still on paper.

Sure, it would of been easy to put it down on paper however making it a reality is a whole different story.

For Ford to put an IRS in the Mustang, they would have to either rework their RWD platform that they use in Australia and make it suitable for use on a Mustang and the North American market (This platform uses right-hand drive and was not designed for out market. The next generation of this platform, if Ford has not put it on hold due to their financial situation, is, from what I've heard, being designed as a global platform suitable for many different markets.) Or, they could come up with an entirely new rear suspension for the Mustang's current and aging platform.

Doing anything remotely close to this will not be cheap for Ford!

fonefiddy · #28 (**permalink**) 02-17-2009, 11:47 AM

Yeah, eventually they even came up with IRS for the Fox bodies.

SMIGGS · #29 (**permalink**) 02-17-2009, 11:47 AM

IMHO this will end up the same way as the LS1 Camaro. Awesome drivetrain with great potential but with an ugly wrapper. Although beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I have a feeling the Camaro will die quickly once again. ( that's if GM stays afloat to begin with )

With that, I do think that the 2010 Mustang isn't as nice as the current design.

BRING BACK THE 1993 COBRA DAMMIT!

Brawny · #30 (**permalink**) 02-17-2009, 12:44 PM

I have to agree the styling of the new camaro isn't up to par. The Challenger and the Stang have it beat in that department hands down.

I absolutly love the new Challenger just a shame that the economy isn't going to support it.

If I had to choose it would be the challenger, mustang, then the camaro which is a shame since I have always loved the camaro's.