Every message board and forum I've checked, the 4.4L is dead. I'd consider one myself as I really don't need a SD. I think that maybe we may get a 5.0L gasser with more oats than the 5.4 has in the next year or so. But I doubt we'll see a diesel unless GM, Dodge, or Toyota comes out with one. Ford is losing enough SD sales to f150's the way it is. Just 2 years ago when I'd trailer to a car show most of the tow vehicles were PSD's including my own. I'm seeing more and more F150's now than ever again including my own.
Every message board and forum I've checked, the 4.4L is dead. I'd consider one myself as I really don't need a SD. I think that maybe we may get a 5.0L gasser with more oats than the 5.4 has in the next year or so. But I doubt we'll see a diesel unless GM, Dodge, or Toyota comes out with one. Ford is losing enough SD sales to f150's the way it is. Just 2 years ago when I'd trailer to a car show most of the tow vehicles were PSD's including my own. I'm seeing more and more F150's now than ever again including my own.
It should not be F150 vs superduty , V10 vs PSD and 5.4 vs 4.6 vs 4.4.
They should just be " the F-series ".
Ford needs to stop caring what gets sales and look at the big picture.
BTW, I heard dodge was putting a cummins in the ram 1500, is that still on?
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my V10 will out pull your PSD any day of the week.
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Can I retrofit a catalytic converter to my butt?
I haven't heard anything about Chrysler's plans for the Dodge 1500. Everything there is kind of in limbo with the reorganization and all. I do know for sure that Cummins has called back 400 or so out of over 700 people for Dodge work. But it's my understanding that it's temporary to complete orders for 2009 2500 up trucks. They'll then have another furlough or layoff until production ramps up for 2010 model sometime in October. At least that's what's being reported here in Indiana. If they did build one, I would feel compelled to take a look.
I love ford, but a ram 1500 with the in bed wall tool box, in floor tool box and a cummins would rock.
You do realize Dodge isn't/wasn't going to use just any old Cummins in the 1500, it is/was going to be a new light duty V8.
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7,500 mile, 15 quart oil changes, 5W-40 Rotella.
UOAs consist of checking for metal on drain plug magnet. All stock, no mods. Dyed fuel with no additives. Never been reflashed.
Total parts replaced;
one EGR valve.
But I doubt we'll see a diesel unless GM, Dodge, or Toyota comes out with one.
Toyota is developing a diesel for the Tundra. They already run diesel engines in their Land Cruisers and other trucks overseas, so it isn't a shock to me. Last I read, it was planned for a 2011 or 2012 model year rollout. We'll see.
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Toyota is developing a diesel for the Tundra. They already run diesel engines in their Land Cruisers and other trucks overseas, so it isn't a shock to me. Last I read, it was planned for a 2011 or 2012 model year rollout. We'll see.
You do realize Dodge isn't/wasn't going to use just any old Cummins in the 1500, it is/was going to be a new light duty V8.
no inline six? screw that.
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my V10 will out pull your PSD any day of the week.
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Originally Posted by Jmeyer1990 ... but i kept losing service in Victoria's Sectret, so I gave up.
Originally Posted by bghnkinf250
Can I retrofit a catalytic converter to my butt?
I had a 99 model Spdty7.3, it was a great truck, never any problems, I now have a 2006, 6.0 and it's a great truck, and no problems, from what I can read, it seems that most of the problems come from trying to get more performance that the engine was designed to do, and if thats what a person wants to do with their money, thats ok, I only know for sure that as long as I am able to drive, I will drive a Ford Super Duty Diesel, no matter who makes the engine>!! thats just my nickels worth. and by the way, I don't haul anything I just love the truck.
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I have spoken to a couple of Ford reps at the traveling Auto Show and they shared the same info that has been buzzing around the local dealerships. There is an existing 4.4L diesel V6 platform used in the cab over commercial units and Ford has had this on the table for a potential 2010 introduction as a power option for medium duty Pick ups and Vans. You may indeed see an F 150 or E 150 outfitted with this power train. Since they equall or better the torgue figues of the 5.4 Triton, geared to a 3:73 rear end you might see 23mpg.
The Dodge Sprinter 3.0L V6 diesel has 280lb/ft of torque and gets 22mpg. The Ford 4.4L should have at least 350lb/ft of torque. I won't complain if it has 400lb/ft torque. I would be a candidate for a replacement van if I can get that 4.4L engine and it would fit in my garage.
I'm not real sure Ford is doing the design and such totally on their own. But they do have some alliances in Europe and are profitable for the most part over there. I have heard that Peugot has been involved with Ford and a new diesel. I honestly don't know who all Ford has been working with, but I do know for sure that Ford will have more control over the project than what they had with Navistar. I just hope that the fuel efficiency comes back on the 6.7L. It is a sad day that my 5.4L F150 gets almost as much fuel mileage towing my car trailer as my 05 6.0L did. Granted, it's not as fast, but it does run the speed limit with the trailer on it.
GregB is right on. Ford has been producing Inline 4 cylinder diesels for about 30 yrs and maybe longer. The ones I know of, are mounted on a mobile conveyor/Shaker system, and they are made in Sweden in memory serves me right. The Motor is Stamped Ford right on the head. I thought about, how cool it would be to get one of these motors and put it in an F-150, or even a Ford Ranger. It's been awhile since I've seen one, but I know where they are. Just got get some time to run out there, where they sit. Anyhow, If I can I'll get some pictures in the next couple of days for you guys and post'm up here.
I have spoken to a couple of Ford reps at the traveling Auto Show and they shared the same info that has been buzzing around the local dealerships. There is an existing 4.4L diesel V6 platform used in the cab over commercial units and Ford has had this on the table for a potential 2010 introduction as a power option for medium duty Pick ups and Vans. You may indeed see an F 150 or E 150 outfitted with this power train. Since they equall or better the torgue figues of the 5.4 Triton, geared to a 3:73 rear end you might see 23mpg.
The Dodge Sprinter 3.0L V6 diesel has 280lb/ft of torque and gets 22mpg. The Ford 4.4L should have at least 350lb/ft of torque. I won't complain if it has 400lb/ft torque. I would be a candidate for a replacement van if I can get that 4.4L engine and it would fit in my garage.
Happy trails
The V6 used in the cabover trucks is the 4.5 Powerstroke which is the 6.0 minus two cylinders and is also built by International, it definately will not be going in any E or F150.
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2004 E-450 6.0 137,500 miles
7,500 mile, 15 quart oil changes, 5W-40 Rotella.
UOAs consist of checking for metal on drain plug magnet. All stock, no mods. Dyed fuel with no additives. Never been reflashed.
Total parts replaced;
one EGR valve.
The 4.5L is a dumb idea. Too close in displacement to the 6.4L.
They should use a 3 liter or something. Heck, BMW's 3-liter twin turbo diesel in the 3/5 series makes 282bhp and 428lbs at 1750 rpm bone stock.
Yes that's not a specific truck engine but so what, there's no excuse for the lack of specific displacement from the american engines in this day and age.
What about the 4 cylinder diesels in the Rangers and Escorts back in the 80's? those were decent little engines. They didn't have a turbo or direct injection and were slow, but they were pretty reliable and got decent fuel mileage. In fact I saw a Ranger 4x4 diesel for sale here in northern Indiana about 3 months ago. I think it was an 85. If the economy around here would have been a little more stable and better I would have looked at it for a back and forth to work vehicle.
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was putting a cummins in the ram 1500, is that still on?
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