1951 vs 1952 hood on my 51 build
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1951 vs 1952 hood on my 51 build
I have one of each and was/am considering selling the 52 hood. the problem is that my 51 hood has a few dents and will need more work, the one concern is on the top of one side it has an area circular 15" +- area that has been dented in (stretched) and not being a body expert it seems like it might be very difficult to get that fixed and not show a high area or imperfections.
I would use the 52 hood on my 51 build but the nose is solid right in the middle front where the 51 is cut out (to accomodate the 51 trim). I think it would be easier to cut out the metal in the nose of the 52 hood instead of trying to fix the dents on my 51 hood.
has anyone done this or have any recommendations? maybe the 51 chromed nose trim would look ok on the 52 hood without cutting the metal out??
the 51 chrome trim has a different top edge profile (pops up in the middle) where the 52 goes straight accross the top edge of the trim.
the 52 also has a couple extra holes in the hood side for the round F1 or F2 up chrome trim but that would be easy to fill.
here is a couple pictures of the differences 51 52
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1225/...ce14d7.jpg?v=0
thanks
I would use the 52 hood on my 51 build but the nose is solid right in the middle front where the 51 is cut out (to accomodate the 51 trim). I think it would be easier to cut out the metal in the nose of the 52 hood instead of trying to fix the dents on my 51 hood.
has anyone done this or have any recommendations? maybe the 51 chromed nose trim would look ok on the 52 hood without cutting the metal out??
the 51 chrome trim has a different top edge profile (pops up in the middle) where the 52 goes straight accross the top edge of the trim.
the 52 also has a couple extra holes in the hood side for the round F1 or F2 up chrome trim but that would be easy to fill.
here is a couple pictures of the differences 51 52
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1225/...ce14d7.jpg?v=0
thanks
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Hmmm Isn't that interesting! Ya learn something new every day - I always thought they were the same too.
Well filling th eholes for th eround 52 side emblem wouldn't be a problem, and I wouldn't think cutting the nose would be either.
Or maybe you could drill the upper valance and make your 51 a counterfiet 52.
But maybe you could get away with painting that center solid nose flat black and use the51 emblem, or paint it the normal truck color and put something cute in there like pinstriping, long horns, or two little led nose lights or something. You know something cool or weird? Being a little more of a purist on looks, I'd probably just cut the nose and "make it" a 51 hood.
Sounds like a fun projects - good luck
Julie
Well filling th eholes for th eround 52 side emblem wouldn't be a problem, and I wouldn't think cutting the nose would be either.
Or maybe you could drill the upper valance and make your 51 a counterfiet 52.
But maybe you could get away with painting that center solid nose flat black and use the51 emblem, or paint it the normal truck color and put something cute in there like pinstriping, long horns, or two little led nose lights or something. You know something cool or weird? Being a little more of a purist on looks, I'd probably just cut the nose and "make it" a 51 hood.
Sounds like a fun projects - good luck
Julie
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I had no idea there was a difference, thanks for pointing that out. So set me straight...
the ist pic is that of a 52(green), and the other is a 51??( the Panel) Both very nice examples by the way.
Your 51 hood has a large dent in the top? Does this dent interfere with the raised portion going thru the center of the hood? Is it an "oil-can" type dent? Are you going for the all original restoration..??
RandyJack installed stiffners on the inside of hood on his 56 project to help in a simaler situation,...just a thought. Oil canning across a large piece as you are describing can be a real treat and learning experience to remove....I"m not that brave to try and attempt that myself...I would probably do more harm than good...LoL! I am becoming a big fan of the 51-52 though..Good Luck on whatever you decide. If it was me...and I was trying to keep things as close to original looking as I could...I"d use the cut-off tool on the center piece........Good thinking!
the ist pic is that of a 52(green), and the other is a 51??( the Panel) Both very nice examples by the way.
Your 51 hood has a large dent in the top? Does this dent interfere with the raised portion going thru the center of the hood? Is it an "oil-can" type dent? Are you going for the all original restoration..??
RandyJack installed stiffners on the inside of hood on his 56 project to help in a simaler situation,...just a thought. Oil canning across a large piece as you are describing can be a real treat and learning experience to remove....I"m not that brave to try and attempt that myself...I would probably do more harm than good...LoL! I am becoming a big fan of the 51-52 though..Good Luck on whatever you decide. If it was me...and I was trying to keep things as close to original looking as I could...I"d use the cut-off tool on the center piece........Good thinking!
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I only have to stock one type of hood to fit all my trucks, the engines are completely interchangeable, along with all of the interior and exterior trims. I need less room to store my inventory
My wife would go nuts if I told her I needed to have two of everthing for two different trucks even if they looked identical to her. She already thinks I have too much "junk".
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If the center piece actually covers the hole completely I don't see why Ford would tool us for a different hood. But maybe, like ever thing else seems to do, it was a cost savings not to do the additional stamping procedure to knock the center hole out. A friend of mine, who used to work for the big three during the '50s and '60s once took a look at the hood on my '49 and told me of the many stampings it took to make the hood. Maybe if they could eliminate one extra stamp it would save Ford $1 a hood, multiplied by how many units made. It could add up to a lot of $$ in a model year. Maybe since they were going with a new hood emblem they figured it would be cheaper to make a new emblem to cover that area than to do the extra stamp.
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Thanks
Wow, Thanks everybody for the tips, pointers, questions and comments,
First the dent in my 51 hood I'm not sure what "oil Canning" is but I agree with Cmoritz I know I would also end up making the dent much worse, So I would end up just paying someone to fix it, (probably big bucks) I'm sure I will have plenty of those before its done so I want to minimize.
the dent is not in the raised section of hood but the raised section as you get closer to the cab is rescessed or pushed down some (on both 51 & 52) hoods but probably worse on the 51. I am interested in how to reinforce that area for sure.
After this thread I'm thinking that I will use the cutoff tool and modify the 52 hood to work for my 51. I will take my trim piece and make sure everything fits nice first and mark it like Illa mentions.
Although Julie has got my brain thinking about some kind of carzy accessory to put there???? hmmmm those two little holes might (see Pic below) could work for some glaring red Eyes or maybe some Blackout lights like my GPW has or something???
I personally like the look of the 51 better, It's the Best looking bonus built out there, it only took them 3 years to figure it out.
ya the five Star Cab guys probably do look down on the non 5 star trucks, Thats where it all started. now look at where we are, Power Mirrors, dvd players, gps navigation, backup sensors (so we can drive a big **** SUV and have absolutly no idea of the vehiculars actual dimensions and rely solely on the sensor to tell us when to stop backing. Its Madness I tell you, My Mother in Law reecntly purchased some hunk of junk GM and had to take an hour and half class on how to use all the accesseries
"She already thinks I have too much "junk". " I love Junk lol
Here is a picture of the front (nose) 52 hood I have, I didn't take any of my 51 and am at work supposed to be working
thanks again
Josh
First the dent in my 51 hood I'm not sure what "oil Canning" is but I agree with Cmoritz I know I would also end up making the dent much worse, So I would end up just paying someone to fix it, (probably big bucks) I'm sure I will have plenty of those before its done so I want to minimize.
the dent is not in the raised section of hood but the raised section as you get closer to the cab is rescessed or pushed down some (on both 51 & 52) hoods but probably worse on the 51. I am interested in how to reinforce that area for sure.
After this thread I'm thinking that I will use the cutoff tool and modify the 52 hood to work for my 51. I will take my trim piece and make sure everything fits nice first and mark it like Illa mentions.
Although Julie has got my brain thinking about some kind of carzy accessory to put there???? hmmmm those two little holes might (see Pic below) could work for some glaring red Eyes or maybe some Blackout lights like my GPW has or something???
I personally like the look of the 51 better, It's the Best looking bonus built out there, it only took them 3 years to figure it out.
ya the five Star Cab guys probably do look down on the non 5 star trucks, Thats where it all started. now look at where we are, Power Mirrors, dvd players, gps navigation, backup sensors (so we can drive a big **** SUV and have absolutly no idea of the vehiculars actual dimensions and rely solely on the sensor to tell us when to stop backing. Its Madness I tell you, My Mother in Law reecntly purchased some hunk of junk GM and had to take an hour and half class on how to use all the accesseries
"She already thinks I have too much "junk". " I love Junk lol
Here is a picture of the front (nose) 52 hood I have, I didn't take any of my 51 and am at work supposed to be working
thanks again
Josh
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FYI I placed my 51 chrome trim up to the 52 hood, I would not be able to attache the 51 chrome without cutting the hole out, the trim piece is recesed back and hits the hood... the other problem I would have is the top edge of my chrome nose piece would only be about 1/16" or less? above the top edge of the side cut outs on the 52 hood. so Im not sure I will use the 52 hood.. the top to bottom cutouts on the 52 are at least 5/8" taller than the 51 hoods.
the funniest thing about this whole deal is the guy who I was going to sell the hood to is also the owner of the very nice Green 52 that I posted the picture of above! hope he doesn't mind.... I had met him last summer.
Later
Josh
the funniest thing about this whole deal is the guy who I was going to sell the hood to is also the owner of the very nice Green 52 that I posted the picture of above! hope he doesn't mind.... I had met him last summer.
Later
Josh