2011 Ford Ranger - What do you think?
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Had a friend's brother drop a 400 h.p. 302 into a 83(?) Ranger a few years after he purchased his truck.
Man that thing flew.
Did such a good job that it had the Ford mechanics scratching their heads for a few moments.
He builds race engines at his shop at Infineon Raceway (I still call it by its REAL name-Sears Point)
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I don't know much about what you're talking about...
Do you mean that concept thing? That Orangey Ranger Max thing? It looks god-awful to me. Reminds me of that GM thing, what was it Aztec or something, only in a p/u incarnation.
The reason Detroit is failing are vehicles like this. Too far outside what people are used to, what they want. Might make something fun to rave about at the auto shows, but you gotta be able to ride in them (and keep your head high enough to see to drive), you have to be able to fix 'em when they go bad, they should still have some value after five or six years.
Toys like that orangey thing might make the boys wet their breeches, but I know many people who, if the full sized F-250/350 look anything like this, they'd drive a Dodge, of all things, before a Ford looking like that! imho
The reason Detroit is failing are vehicles like this. Too far outside what people are used to, what they want. Might make something fun to rave about at the auto shows, but you gotta be able to ride in them (and keep your head high enough to see to drive), you have to be able to fix 'em when they go bad, they should still have some value after five or six years.
Toys like that orangey thing might make the boys wet their breeches, but I know many people who, if the full sized F-250/350 look anything like this, they'd drive a Dodge, of all things, before a Ford looking like that! imho
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Back in the fold
Actually, I'm much more disappointed in the talk now then before. I had looked at the frames of those new F150's & other bits. I'd have to move to a desert or something before anybody could get me behind the wheel of a new Ford for a spin. What has me groaning loudest is that it looks just about impossible to keep the frame from rotting away even with focused & determined washing. Most underbody coatings usually make the problem worse in practice up here unless its done just so & monitored. I doubt a new truck would be worth all that, esp with the other issues under the hood.
Just strip out the air bags, A/C ( via dummy pulley), A/T and such. I actually think the industry is overdue for focusing on trying to work with DuPont to incorporate a LOT more carbon fiber, which could eventually obsolete some of the out of control airbags & even some of the headaches with insurance & body shops. Carbon fiber frame that attaches to a steel cab shell. I know we've a long way to go & that it uses precious resources of oil as well as cost, but possibly worth it. Cut down on sophistication of the chassis brain a bit too which means a couple milliamps less draw on battery. Or use that for chipspace something else... better than the likes of OnStar! Like better powertrain or handling AI. Crossing up my own prefs, but better than what they tend to strive for.
I've been off the forum since I haven't been driving my own autos for ages in this dead hole of SE MI. But the family seems to need my Ranger again at least until I figure out if I can fix thiers, which has a big repair bill. So I'm busy under the hoods again.
Just strip out the air bags, A/C ( via dummy pulley), A/T and such. I actually think the industry is overdue for focusing on trying to work with DuPont to incorporate a LOT more carbon fiber, which could eventually obsolete some of the out of control airbags & even some of the headaches with insurance & body shops. Carbon fiber frame that attaches to a steel cab shell. I know we've a long way to go & that it uses precious resources of oil as well as cost, but possibly worth it. Cut down on sophistication of the chassis brain a bit too which means a couple milliamps less draw on battery. Or use that for chipspace something else... better than the likes of OnStar! Like better powertrain or handling AI. Crossing up my own prefs, but better than what they tend to strive for.
I've been off the forum since I haven't been driving my own autos for ages in this dead hole of SE MI. But the family seems to need my Ranger again at least until I figure out if I can fix thiers, which has a big repair bill. So I'm busy under the hoods again.
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I thought the Ranger Max looked a little like a junior Raptor...
I for one would love a small diesel that would get me 40 MPG. With all the pressure the manufacturers are getting to meet the upcomming CAFE standards I can't see why they wouldn't offer it. The smaller diesels are so effecient that they wouldn't have to have the Urea junk on it like their big brothers...
I for one would love a small diesel that would get me 40 MPG. With all the pressure the manufacturers are getting to meet the upcomming CAFE standards I can't see why they wouldn't offer it. The smaller diesels are so effecient that they wouldn't have to have the Urea junk on it like their big brothers...
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I'm very intrigued now, this is all news to me. I thought that with both Ranger manufacturing plants set to close for good in 2011, that that would be the final year of production. And that replacements to be ushered in would be reminiscent of the F100, Courier and possibly a sized-down Raptor or even a Sport Trac(awful). But this is the extent of what I've heard. I definitely don't want my perfect little truck to go away, but like I said now in addition to being nervous about this, I am intrigued. I would welcome 28mpg or higher & a lower price but I definitely don't want to get a regular cab pickup. In fact I think that even the 2010 Ranger 4-door Supercab needs to be upgraded to a full crewcab! That way we get the convenience of all that space and don't have to get crewcab F150's and go to an even lower fuel economy. I guess I'm not clear about the direction that Ford is taking the Ranger.