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Old 01-11-2009, 05:25 PM
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Unhappy 2001 F-150 5.4 triton very load POP, POP noise

Yesterday...Jan 10....driving about 35 miles an hour and Pop, Pop load noises coming from the engine.......pulled over and turned engine off.....open hood.....nothing....turned engine on and it sounded like the exhaust was open........(no) it just sounded that way with the pop, pop noise and misfiring...........?????
I think it's a blown cylinder head gasket...........????

What will this cost to repair?????

I did not turn engine on....called tow truck.

74,000 miles ...light duty work...Kings Ranch Edition
 
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:04 PM
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Sounds like you blew a spark plug, which is a fairly common problem for the triton motors. A dealer will probably charge you probably $200+ to fix it.
 
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:05 PM
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Might be a blown out spark plug. It's a problem with these engines that affects a relatively small percentage. But when you have millions of these on the road, a small percentage is quite a few engines.

If I'm right, you're looking at a few hundred (or hundurt depending on where you're from) if you have it helicoiled. If you have had it towed to the dealer, they will probably want to replace the head for thousands.

There is a product called a Timesert I think that is made for this. Ask you mechanic about it if you didn't take it to a Ford dealer (they'll probably want to rape you for thousands). It's doable yourself if you're mechanicly inclined.

With luck maybe Ford will finally address this design flaw (not enough spark plug threads) and fix our trucks like they did with the 7.3PSD CPS recall years after production ceased. I'm not holding my breath though.

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Plugs

All taht noise from a blown plug.......I'm assuming that a part of my plug is stiil in the head?????

Can that be safely removed, without hurting the heads??

My concern would be that something falls into the cylinder??
 
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:35 PM
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Typically it rips the whole plug out of the head and takes the threads with it, thus the helicoil or head replacement.

However I did have a plug self destruct in my engine and it was letting gasses out between the insulator and metal. In that case, I was able to get the plug out w/o destroying the heads.





The black part on the second photo is where the insulator was moving up and down and where it was letting gasses out. How it did not ruin a valve or something only god knows.

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Welcome to the blown plug club, hopefully it is towards the front or it will easily cost twice as much to fix.
 
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Welcome to the blown plug club, hopefully it is towards the front or it will easily cost twice as much to fix.
I have owned F-150 since 1988. I did not know a riton engine had this problem.......I had my truck towed to Ford

Can they fix the blown out plug or should I get a outside shop??
 
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Old 01-11-2009, 08:02 PM
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I had my truck towed to Ford

Can I trust them to fix the blow out????

Or should I get a local shop to fix the truck??
 
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Ford will fix it alright! For about 4000.00!!! Find a shop that has dealt with the Blown Plug problem if you don't want to do it yourself. Done them as cheap as 200.00 and as costly as 500.00. Just depends on which plug and the amount of damage done. The kit is around 500.00 if you want to do it yourself. New coil is around 40.00. Not real hard to do , you just have to be careful and patient.
 
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The dealer will rape you on the price. I had #2 replaced at my Midas for under $200, they said if it was one of the back 4 they have to remove the head and you are looking at $500+ then, I would expect a dealer to double all of those prices to do the same job.
 
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Originally Posted by galaxie641
The dealer will rape you on the price. I had #2 replaced at my Midas for under $200, they said if it was one of the back 4 they have to remove the head and you are looking at $500+ then, I would expect a dealer to double all of those prices to do the same job.
Although there is not much room near the back, I have seen it done before. A guy where I work used the Snap-on kit when I watched him, which i'm not sure on the price difference compared to the timesert kit, but the Snap-on kit is a very nice kit.
Something I learned after watching him install a Snap-on repair insert into #4, is to absolutely make sure you removed all the metal shavings. After he tapped the head for the insert, I was almost certain that after he blew air into the cylinder for a few seconds that all the shavings must of blew out. But, he showed me on his little diagonistic camera thing all the leftover shavings still on top of the piston.
 
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