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What kind of antifreeze can I use?

in my '97 Powerstroke other than something that I have to get at the dealership?

I have researched this site and I am more confused now then I ever was. Can't I just use something that Wallyworld sells and add the FW-15 additive to it?
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i called the ford dealership just this last friday and asked about the coolant i have- "shellzone".

the fleet manager said that one is okay without adding anything. for heavy duty or industrial applications, they said you'd need SCA, but for our "light truck" it is not needed.

so there is at least one you can get away with.
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You should use "Low Silicate", then add the SCA.

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what is "sca". heard a lot of having to add it , what is it? had the guy in the auto parts telling me to check with a hydrometer. now i know thats wrong . he had none (obviously)
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I will throw more into the mix.
Evans NPG Coolant.

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this seems more comlicated all the time . rebuilding a motor . easy . modifying it . easy.

putting antifreze in it . well.... thats a different story.
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the fleet manager said that one is okay without adding anything. for heavy duty or industrial applications, they said you'd need SCA, but for our "light truck" it is not needed.



Click the image to open in full size.

The fleet manager was right, but for the wrong reason

even our "light trucks" need the SCA's but it's already in the Shellzone so it's still the right stuff




Shellzone® Antifreeze is specially formulated to meet the stringent aluminum corrosion protection requirements of today’s automotive engines. Because of its low concentration of silicate, it also complies with Cummins and other heavy-duty diesel engine manufacturer’s silicate requirements. This product is also suitable for use in industrial internal combustion engines where an antifreeze/coolant is required to provide protection against freezing, boil over, and corrosion.
Features and Benefits
Shellzone® Antifreeze provides the following qualities:
• universal formula for both automotive and heavy duty diesel engines (ASTM D 3306 and ASTM D 4985) • excellent heat transfer properties • excellent anti-foam characteristics • excellent corrosion protection for aluminum, brass, copper, solder, steel and cast iron • low silicate formulation • nitrite-free, amine-free and borax-free • concentrate mixes readily with clean tap water • pre-diluted product is ready to use and requires no mixing for top-up and initial fill • compatible with cooling system filters • compatible with heavy duty diesel supplemental coolant additives • compatible with conventional brands of coolant • 100% biodegradable in its pure unused form

Approvals and Recommendations
Shellzone® Antifreeze meets:
• ASTM D 3306 for automotive service • ASTM D 4985 for heavy duty diesel service Shellzone® Antifreeze Prediluted 50/50 meets: • ASTM D 4656 for pre-blend automotive service • ASTM D 5345 for pre-blend heavy duty diesel service

Shellzone® Antifreeze meets or exceeds the requirements of the following specifications: (It should be noted that many heavy-duty diesel manufacturers are changing their requirements to simply require ASTM D 4985)
• AAMVA
• General Motors GM1825M
• ASTM D 3306 incl. D 4340
• ASTM D 4985
• Chrysler MS-7170
• Cummins 90T8-4
• Federal Specification A-A-870
• Ford ESE-M97B44-A
• Mack Truck
• Freightliner
• General Motors GM1899M
(Performance corresponding to GM6038M)
• J.I. Case JIC501
• John Deere H24B1
• John Deere H24C1
• PACCAR
• SAE J1034
• TMC of ATA RP-302A
Note: Shellzone® Antifreeze is not an extended life coolant and requires the use of Supplemental Coolant Additives (SCA’s) in heavy duty and industrial applications.
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[IMG]• concentrate mixes readily with clean tap water • pre-diluted product is ready to use and requires no mixing for top-up and initial fill •
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The first statement tells me whats in the second statement.
Tap Water. HHmmm.

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Haha Bill.

So what your saying it doesn't readily mix with well water? lol
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okay, to re-complicate what we just simplified... will the ingredients of the shellzone break down to the point where supplemental coolant additives will be needed someday?
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Haha Bill.

So what your saying it doesn't readily mix with well water? lol
Water is not just water.
Depends also what your location adds to it.
At the shop--All gets the garden hose.
People will overpay to drink bottled water but
they wont do it for their cooling system.
No tap,well ect water for me.
Have seen what it does.
Check the non-laboratory use in link.
Purified water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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okay, to re-complicate what we just simplified... will the ingredients of the shellzone break down to the point where supplemental coolant additives will be needed someday?
Note: Shellzone® Antifreeze is not an extended life coolant and requires the use of Supplemental Coolant Additives (SCA’s) in heavy duty and industrial applications.

Its pre-charged.
You still need to test down the road.

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Nice link Bill. I usually fill mine up with the garden hose because I'm too cheap to buy destilled.

Eric, I believe the SCA will last the lifetime of the coolant. You can probably buy some test strips to check it after a while.
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