2001 Hatch lock problem
#1
2001 Hatch lock problem
I have a 2001 escape that has a interesting problem with the rear hatch. When it is hot out side or the sun is shinning on the rear hatch the lock will not unlock,all the other doors do. When it gets dark or the door cool down the nit will unlock with the rest of the doors. Any Ideas as to what might be the problem
#2
Hmmmmmmmmm
Sounds like the acctuator to me (an electro magnet). I worh on equip. that uses alot of solinoid switches and when they heat up they dont have enough %$#@ to pull in. Funny...... I haven't been on this site for over a year and was gonna post on a problem Im having with my rear hatch....... It locks ok but the rear glass doesnt??? I looked at it and locked and un-locked it and I dont see anything in the linkage to keep the handle from operating when it's locked?????
#4
hatch lock
same problem on my 01 Escape. replaced solenoid with unit from Parts Express online. Sku 330-582. After removing 4 screws from inner hatch trim cover and snapping out cover, the complete assy is exposed. Remove 1 phillips screw and 4 10mm nuts and assy comes apart. I then replaced the solenoid with the aftermarket unit(you will have to bend the included rod to match fit because it doesn't have same rod as the factory unit). Then wire the new unit to factory wiring(green to pink and blue to pink with black stripe. Done in 1 hour total. Price for solenoid $10.50, price if you have to buy whole latch assembly from Ford $147.00. (Ford only offers complete latch, lock, handle as a part)
#6
After market solenoid for rear hatch works!
Ordered the solenoid from parts express. Had to bend the rod as stated in the previous post. Length was a little tricky with the metal rod provided with the kit and you had to bend it in such a way that it would not fall out of the hole it hooks into,(U shape but not so tight a hook that you can't get it to hook in its hole before you mount the new solenoid). The stock solenoid has a plastic rod that goes into the hole and rotates 90 degrees to hold it in place so bending a loop serves the same purpose. $10.50 is a lot better than the price the stealer wanted to install it. They quoted us $300 installed but I later found out that they were charging for the whole latch assy. PLUS the handles. A call to Ford parts informed me that the handles were INCLUDED in the latch assy. and were not billed separate as the dealer had stated. I pointed this out to the service Mgr. and he said it was an honest mistake. You KNOW he would have charged me separately if I didn't do my homework. A word to the wise! $10.50 and an hour of my time beats $300 any day. Thanks Ford Truck Enthusiasts !
#7
Part No Longer Available
After an hour of searching happened to come across this wonderful site and the answer I needed. The problem is Parts-Express.com no longer offers Sku 330-582. Can you guys let me know if there is another source for this? I agree with the previous post on the ford should have put a key slot in the rear door on this model. Right now I am unlocking and looking the door manually with cover off the back hatch. Very annoying.
But do not want to pay around 150 for the whole assembly. Hope you guys can help. Thanks
But do not want to pay around 150 for the whole assembly. Hope you guys can help. Thanks
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#8
Thanks for all the info. My liftgate stopped working while I was moving furniture.
I found a site that sells the actuator for $29.98 w/free shipping. Lessco Sales - Omega DS2.1SQ Thin Euro Style Door Lock Motor Actuator
I found a site that sells the actuator for $29.98 w/free shipping. Lessco Sales - Omega DS2.1SQ Thin Euro Style Door Lock Motor Actuator
#9
the lessco part ds2.1sq has a "ring" at the end of tha actuator plunger. Tho Ford part has a longer shaft that has the correct end to fit the lock mechanism. If you look carefully you will see that both the ring and the arm are pressed on sideways over a button like fitting on the end of the plungers I switched the parts in about 1 min using a pair of pliers to hold the small parts. Do not turn this into work the whole job was about an hour. Bill
#10
Thanks for all the info. My liftgate stopped working while I was moving furniture.
I found a site that sells the actuator for $29.98 w/free shipping. Lessco Sales - Omega DS2.1SQ Thin Euro Style Door Lock Motor Actuator
I found a site that sells the actuator for $29.98 w/free shipping. Lessco Sales - Omega DS2.1SQ Thin Euro Style Door Lock Motor Actuator
Thanks for the info, guys!
Andy
#11
Here's some info from another forum contained within this link.
Re by Ivon5401:
HERE is the Omega DS-2 REPLACEMENT $11.00
Here's the link to the part: *AUTOTOYS url=http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=13275
With this comment from a person who used it for the lift gate in an '02 Escape:
"This is a replacement for the OEM liftgate actuator for the Ford 02 Escape. Many web sites referenced the Omega DS2.1SQ, which unfortunately, has been discontinued as of the spring of 2010. I ordered this part from Autotoys[...] from the description of the item alone since there is no manufacturer's info or specs. The item I received did not have any manufacturing name info on the plain white box. However, unlike the Omega model, this one is easier to install. It is black in color and has a detachable lift rod connector. I just popped out the lift rod connector from the Ford OEM part and snapped it on to the replacement actuator. Perfect fit - no monkeying around to with a hacked lift rod connector contraption. As for the wire connection, I just flattened out the hollow metal connectors, trimmed off the metal edges to produce a 1/8" blade, inserted the blades into the Ford harness (female end), and taped up the connection. Guessing which colored wire goes with the right Ford wire was 50-50. I guessed wrong the first time, but just swapped the connectors. Everything works. I don't know who manufactures this part, but let's hope that Autotoy.com continues to stock and sell it since it appears that no one has anything comparable (or you can pay $130-150 for the Ford OEM assembly)."
Re by Ivon5401:
HERE is the Omega DS-2 REPLACEMENT $11.00
Here's the link to the part: *AUTOTOYS url=http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=13275
With this comment from a person who used it for the lift gate in an '02 Escape:
"This is a replacement for the OEM liftgate actuator for the Ford 02 Escape. Many web sites referenced the Omega DS2.1SQ, which unfortunately, has been discontinued as of the spring of 2010. I ordered this part from Autotoys[...] from the description of the item alone since there is no manufacturer's info or specs. The item I received did not have any manufacturing name info on the plain white box. However, unlike the Omega model, this one is easier to install. It is black in color and has a detachable lift rod connector. I just popped out the lift rod connector from the Ford OEM part and snapped it on to the replacement actuator. Perfect fit - no monkeying around to with a hacked lift rod connector contraption. As for the wire connection, I just flattened out the hollow metal connectors, trimmed off the metal edges to produce a 1/8" blade, inserted the blades into the Ford harness (female end), and taped up the connection. Guessing which colored wire goes with the right Ford wire was 50-50. I guessed wrong the first time, but just swapped the connectors. Everything works. I don't know who manufactures this part, but let's hope that Autotoy.com continues to stock and sell it since it appears that no one has anything comparable (or you can pay $130-150 for the Ford OEM assembly)."
#12
Here's some info from another forum contained within this link.
Re by Ivon5401:
HERE is the Omega DS-2 REPLACEMENT $11.00
Here's the link to the part: *AUTOTOYS url=http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=13275
With this comment from a person who used it for the lift gate in an '02 Escape:
"This is a replacement for the OEM liftgate actuator for the Ford 02 Escape. Many web sites referenced the Omega DS2.1SQ, which unfortunately, has been discontinued as of the spring of 2010. I ordered this part from Autotoys[...] from the description of the item alone since there is no manufacturer's info or specs. The item I received did not have any manufacturing name info on the plain white box. However, unlike the Omega model, this one is easier to install. It is black in color and has a detachable lift rod connector. I just popped out the lift rod connector from the Ford OEM part and snapped it on to the replacement actuator. Perfect fit - no monkeying around to with a hacked lift rod connector contraption. As for the wire connection, I just flattened out the hollow metal connectors, trimmed off the metal edges to produce a 1/8" blade, inserted the blades into the Ford harness (female end), and taped up the connection. Guessing which colored wire goes with the right Ford wire was 50-50. I guessed wrong the first time, but just swapped the connectors. Everything works. I don't know who manufactures this part, but let's hope that Autotoy.com continues to stock and sell it since it appears that no one has anything comparable (or you can pay $130-150 for the Ford OEM assembly)."
Re by Ivon5401:
HERE is the Omega DS-2 REPLACEMENT $11.00
Here's the link to the part: *AUTOTOYS url=http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=13275
With this comment from a person who used it for the lift gate in an '02 Escape:
"This is a replacement for the OEM liftgate actuator for the Ford 02 Escape. Many web sites referenced the Omega DS2.1SQ, which unfortunately, has been discontinued as of the spring of 2010. I ordered this part from Autotoys[...] from the description of the item alone since there is no manufacturer's info or specs. The item I received did not have any manufacturing name info on the plain white box. However, unlike the Omega model, this one is easier to install. It is black in color and has a detachable lift rod connector. I just popped out the lift rod connector from the Ford OEM part and snapped it on to the replacement actuator. Perfect fit - no monkeying around to with a hacked lift rod connector contraption. As for the wire connection, I just flattened out the hollow metal connectors, trimmed off the metal edges to produce a 1/8" blade, inserted the blades into the Ford harness (female end), and taped up the connection. Guessing which colored wire goes with the right Ford wire was 50-50. I guessed wrong the first time, but just swapped the connectors. Everything works. I don't know who manufactures this part, but let's hope that Autotoy.com continues to stock and sell it since it appears that no one has anything comparable (or you can pay $130-150 for the Ford OEM assembly)."
I saved a lot of money by not buying a complete assembly from the Ford dealer, but I still think it stinks that this company charged me $24.50 to ship a $16.00 (now $24.00) part, especially when it only cost them $4.75 to ship it!! Hopefully someone on this forum can find the part somewhere else that charges less for shipping.
Andy
#13
Thanks for all the info guys, I'm having the same issue w/ my '01 Escape.
I found another actuator on amazon for $4, and though I'd share.
GALAXY AC-1 Door Lock Actuator
I found another actuator on amazon for $4, and though I'd share.
GALAXY AC-1 Door Lock Actuator
#15
Racerford,
If you look at a older thread it's not too far down the forum from this thread titled "2008 Ford Escape rear hatch won't open" by Bucknut614. You will see some pictures by Asipes in there, that are pretty good and detailed.
My 2001 rear lock just started doing the same thing yesterday, won't unlock when it's hot out, and living in Texas, it's hot out! I found the part for $12.50 including shipping.
Scott
If you look at a older thread it's not too far down the forum from this thread titled "2008 Ford Escape rear hatch won't open" by Bucknut614. You will see some pictures by Asipes in there, that are pretty good and detailed.
My 2001 rear lock just started doing the same thing yesterday, won't unlock when it's hot out, and living in Texas, it's hot out! I found the part for $12.50 including shipping.
Scott