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Old 12-19-2008, 01:30 AM
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will a NP205 tcase bolt up to a zf-5 speed?

hey guys jsut wondering will a NP205 from a 79 ford bolt up to a zf-5speed?
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Old 12-19-2008, 01:36 AM
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Yup. (the year in this case does not matter) I just put a ZF-5 together for a new Crew cab project, and it bolted right up to a twin sticked 205.
You will have to grind the adapter a little to add some clearance for the shift rail though.
Goes together like butter.
Fords have an advantage over other manufacturers because fords use the same 6 bolt round pattern for all t-cases. Fords use the same input spline counts as well.
This is easier than you think.
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Old 12-19-2008, 12:41 PM
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Im pretty sure i know what adapter needs ground.you have to dring it because of how the t case shift rails come out. now what can i do to make a t case lever inside of the cab to put it in and out?
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There are many options for this. On my application I am using a cable activated shifter so there is no longer any linkages. Often times a simple bracket can be made to accomodate the shifter. You can use the bolts for the adapter to mount this. You will have to get creative, but it is not difficult.
By the way, if you do not have this trans in the truck yet, you will be suprised that the transmission shifter now finds a home where the t-case lever used to sit. This is where the creativity comes into play.
Just have to go with the flow and let the fabrication begin.

What have you done about the hydraulic assembly? Or have you not arrived at this stage yet?
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Did the zf5 come behind the 460 at all?
And if so is it all the same besides the bell housing?
I.e. clutch, lines, cylineder......
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the tranny is in a 90 f-350 so i just used the orignal clutch master and slave cylinder on the truck. also what do you mean the shifter leans over to the driver side?
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:20 AM
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Well man, that trans is huge, and the shifter pops up ina pretty wild place. This is a common challenge with the NV4500 as well.
Really not a big deal, but agin, it is gonna take some creativity:
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Here are a few more pics of the trans and t-case together. I took some pics when I threw it together the first time. I also put the linkage on there as a reference to illistrate that it will actually work.
In these shots I was working out the starter issues. This donor trans came from a diesel truck, so the adapter was used.
Anyway there was a question about the single stick shifter so here is what that will look like.
Keep in mind that the angle of the little link that connects the shifter to the rails is poor, and a set of spherical rod ends and a custom link will fix that in no time.

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Nice, I'm planning the same swap. That's cool that the hole lines up anyway! So are you going to mount a cable shifter (twin stick of course setup up near where the original shifter was?
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Yup, I have machined the original boss away from the adapter, and made the clearance necessary to run a morse cable. It is tight but should work.
My shifter for the t-case actually mounts above the trans tunnel, and has its own small housing. Two small levers for high and low ranges. Pretty simple.
Long ways away from being done, but should be pretty cool when done. This is a nice beefy trans.
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ok guys i just did this setup. 94 f250 7.3 zf5. did the dana 60 kingpin swap, got a highsteer kit, did a sky shackle reversal with 5" lift, and 6" lift springs. got the 79 bronco np205 in and bolted up, cut away the zf like in the above pitures. ok, now holy ****, my driveline angles are huuge. 2.5 feet from knuckle to knuckle, and an 18" drop. have too many jacks and stands in the way for pics of the whole setup. so now what? i mean the driveline is like more then a 45deg angle.. i dont think theres any shims out there safe enough for this.. so do i cut the tubes out and reweld? what do you think 73f350? you seem to be the shop supervisor around here LOL. i have the dowel pin locked into the zf, what about cutting the dowel, and rotating another bolt? like a whole bolt distance to get more drop out of the t case? probably not a good idea eh? anyway if i cut the welds on the tubes, whats to it? theres just the welds in the holes of the diff housing into the tubes, like factory. just torch those out with pressure on the pinion till she cracks and rotates? thanks guys!!
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Clock the 205 down


Call Jesse at HAD for shafts
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How do i clock it? Is there a kit? And whos had? I live the high desert apple valley ca
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You can look on ebay or probably ruffstuff specialties, blue torch or ballistic for the clocking ring. Its just a piece of 1/4" aluminum so i wouldnt think anyone is selling a higher quality piece than someone else.


High Angle Driveline in Northern California.

Cutting and rotating your Cs would be an extreme last ditch idea to correct your driveline angles. Most trucks needing this are in the 12"+ lift range
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Unless I'm misunderstanding, he has bgtl 11" of lift.
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