Point is moot...point of post was that we have to support our own economy first!
Your point is well made, but how will that be accomplished today, since most of our manufacturing base has gone elsewhere?
Let's face it...we have become a nation of consumers, buying our goods that are made damn near everywhere else but here.
At one time, the US was the largest producer of steel, petroleum, motor vehicles, textiles. shoes, household goods, medicine, aircraft.
Today, with the exception of vehicles...which is fast eroding, and aircraft, the bulk of these goods are produced and imported from Asia, Mexico, Europe and the Middle-East.
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So true, so true NumberDummy. Let's all hope for the best and try to turn this thing around. As long as I've got your ear, NumberDummy, you deserve a gold star and the respect of every Ford enthusiast out there for your selfless sharing of your wealth of information and knowlege. It's guys like you sharing what you know that perpetuates a hobby. Off topic, I know, but never really had the chance before to address you and pay you the compliment you deserve. Happy Holidays!
NumberDummy just knows enough to make hime dangerous ha ha, he sometimes thinks he knows more than ford it's self ha ha He seems to have trouble giving ford credit for anything, he sometime appears to be a ford basher. However, he really isn't, he just tells the story and lets the truth lead where ever it takes us. All of fords history isn't rosey, so Bill tells the history and lets the chips fall where they may. He eirks me at times as it sounds like he hates ford and is out to discredit them, but once you know him, you will find that it isn't so. He just knows the history of ford so well, even the deep dark secrets hee hee.
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ND... this question isn't for you.... you're good at digging up Google lists, this is for everyone else:
Q. Which auto company was highly involved in Nazi Germany, helped make the invasions into Poland and Russia possible, and had an executive receive a medal from Hitler?
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Why that would be the famous General Motors, and their sidekick Opel of course.
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ND... this question isn't for you.... you're good at digging up Google lists, this is for everyone else:
Q. Which auto company was highly involved in Nazi Germany, helped make the invasions into Poland and Russia possible, and had an executive receive a medal from Hitler?
Googling?
ACH du LIEBER!!
I have over 2,000 books on auto history, over 30,000 books in my library on a wide variety of subjects, a 90% + memory retention, an IQ of 163 and belong to Mensa.
Why would I need to Google diddly?
Google should google me!
That list of innovations in Post 139 was typed off the cuff, as is darn near everything else auto history related I type on FTE.
I prolly have, at minimum, 20,000 Ford basic part numbers memorized.
I can look at the serial number of any Winchester rifle or shotgun made between 1866 thru 1920, and tell you what year it was made.
I can answer this question too, without looking at squat.
MAN oh man...
That's not the answer, I thought I'd toss it in just cuz.
btw: I wonder what Alfred Sloan's thoughts were, considering...?
__________________ Bill / Retired Ford Partsman (1962/97) / Part number research: Trucks: 1928/2000 // Cars: 1928/79.
I have over 2,000 books on auto history, over 30,000 books in my library on a wide variety of subjects,
Sounds like my library. My books tend to be business, spiritual, religious history, economics, law, science fiction (I read many of these), travel, financial, computer (usually programming and system administration books), and history of nations.
I've written a couple. My first was a book on the history of flight in the 4th and 5th grade, which I illustrated (I had a knack for art back then but lost interest). I was into collecting photographs of aircraft throughout history and at the time I wanted to be a pilot until computers really got my attention.
My second book was a programming book for the DEC Rainbow 100. When it came out there was pretty much no programming documentation available for it (plenty out there for the IBM-PC). I can remember the long pauses I got calling tech support for information about the computer, which they couldn't answer. I ended up hacking the ROM to find out what it did, and getting chip set documentation from Intel, 2 assembly language primers (the computer had both an 8-bit Z80 and a 16 bit 8086) and poking around the various I/O ports to find out how the Rainbow 100 interfaced them. It was handed to a few people in DEC via my father (worked there).
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a 90% + memory retention,
I sell my books once I read them a couple of times, except for the classics and books which I use as frequently reference. The ones I retain complete knowledge of I sell. More than once I've shown up at a used book store with a pickup bed full of books!
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an IQ of 163 and belong to Mensa.
Last time I got my IQ tested it was in the 8th grade, completely stoned out of my mind and still got well over 150. Since then I have had no interest in taking the tests again because Mensa membership doesn't particularly appeal to me (I know my capabilities and most Mensa members I've encountered have been snobs with few social abilities - not saying that's you ). My retirement goal at age 50 is to be involved in mentorship programs for young folks and not necessarily the brainy. Drive and the desire to learn, in my experience, gets people further in life than mere smarts. Henry Ford and other extremely successful people have offered good advice on the subject: it is not neccesarry to know everything, it is more useful to focus on what you are doing and have others available to answer the questions you don't know.
My question for you is... with that IQ, Mensa membership and your memory, why didn't you choose to go in a research lab or in some other field building something (business, economics, electronics, chemistry, etc.)? Knowledge not used is wasted opportunity.
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Why would I need to Google diddly?
I've found the web to be a bigger repository of knowledge than any one person or collection of books, mine included. To not use the web as a supplement to my knowledge and that contained in my books is ignoring a valuable resource, especially since the books sometimes are wrong or incomplete (including some of the Ford parts books in my experience). I can't recall how many times you've insisted something about a part was a fact when in fact people have seen different in the real world - just because Ford does or doesn't list a part for a certain application doesn't mean they didn't use it. Production back then was often on an availability basis and some odd things ended up in vehicles, especially special orders.
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Google should google me!
I found the entry by searching "book smart."
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That list of innovations in Post 139 was typed off the cuff, as is darn near everything else auto history related I type on FTE.
They were completely off the wall facts which didn't directly answer the other posters question, but listed primarily non-Ford innovations.
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I prolly have, at minimum, 20,000 Ford basic part numbers memorized.
Why with that mountain of books, knowledge and IQ, do you use the words prolly and peeps? I'm curious.....?
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I can look at the serial number of any Winchester rifle or shotgun made between 1866 thru 1920, and tell you what year it was made.
I know someone who can look at virtually any weapon (gun or knife) and tell you all about it. It only serves to put me to sleep or ruin social situations. We'll be watching a movie and interjects facts about the weaponry (such as why the weapon is wrong for the scene) and it sometimes ruins the context of getting together in the first place. He's got a good heart though.
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I can answer this question too, without looking at squat.
I asked that you not answer the question not as a challenge to you (because I knew you had the answer) but as a challenge to others. There was no need to get ruffled and defensive, really!
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I sell my books once I read them a couple of times, except for the classics and books which I use as frequently reference. The ones I retain complete knowledge of I sell. More than once I've shown up at a used book store with a pickup bed full of books! I've never sold a book. When I moved out here from West LA, I donated around 500 novels to the library, keeping only the Clive Cussler 'Dirk Pitt' books.
(I know my capabilities and most Mensa members I've encountered have been snobs with few social abilities - not saying that's you ). Social graces not withstanding...if the shoe fits...
My question for you is... with that IQ, Mensa membership and your memory, why did you choose to be a parts counter guy? I don't mean that in any negative way, but it seems those skills could have gotten you far in a research lab or in some other field building something (business, economics, electronics, chemistry, etc.). I wanted to work in the carbiz. Since my mechanical skills were/are wanting, and I didn't want to emulate my dad (selling), and I have a better than average memory...the parts department it was.
There's another reason...but I'm not discussing it here.
I've found the web to be a bigger repository of knowledge than any one person or collection of books, mine included. To not use the web as a supplement to my knowledge and that contained in my books is ignoring a valuable resource, especially since the books sometimes are wrong or incomplete (including some of the Ford parts books in my experience). I can't recall how many times you've insisted something about a part was a fact when in fact people have seen different in the real world - just because Ford does or doesn't list a part for a certain application doesn't mean they didn't use it. Production back then was often on an availability basis and some odd things ended up in vehicles, especially special orders. I've made many a notation of how many editions of parts catalogs were updated...I'll leave it at that.
Why with that mountain of books, knowledge and IQ, do you use the words prolly and peeps? I'm curious.....? Internet speak, being a lousy two finger typist is another reason.
I know someone who can look at virtually any weapon (gun or knife) and tell you all about it. It only serves to put me to sleep or ruin social situations. We'll be watching a movie and interjects facts about the weaponry (such as why the weapon is wrong for the scene) and it sometimes ruins the context of getting together in the first place. He's got a good heart though. Several of my pals are just as anal as I am...we go to a flick...start picking it apart...that car is wrong, that rifle wasn't available till 1924, TV antennas on the roof of supposed 1930's films, oxymorons abound. The only western ever made that is correct as to costumes and guns is TOMBSTONE (1993), because the tech advisor (Peter Sheracko) is an anal as I am. He's also an actor and played Texas Jack Vermillion in the film.
I asked that you not answer the question not as a challenge to you (because I knew you had the answer) but as a challenge to others. There was no need to get ruffled and defensive, really!
Sorry...I was in-coherant after I read your comment about digging up Google lists. I didn't answer the question, tho I made a ref to MAN (not the answer) and to Alfred Sloan.
There were two people working for separate companies in the German autobiz that were awarded high Nazi honors. Not sure which one you are refering to.
One received the medal in 1937, another in 1938.
And exactly what auto industry innovations did Ford come up with? If Henry had had his way, Ford would have made Model T's till the day he died in 1947.
Packard had more innovations in one decade than Ford has had in their 105 year history.
btw: Ford took his last ride...in a Packard hearse.
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And exactly what auto industry innovations did Ford come up with?
Not many actually if you look soley at technology. That isn't the key to success (often) in the industry. Look at Apple verses Microsoft for an example. Many companies let others spend their time and research money figuring out what the consumer wants and doesn't want. Then come in and spend their time and money finding ways to do it for less money even if its not as good and people gooble it up. Henry's anal attitudes about cost savings were keys to his success early on, and ultimately his downfall because he was too tunnel visioned to see that the spending power of the consumers was on the increase and they wanted features and were no longer (purely) cost driven.
He succeeded when merely having an auto was a luxury, and failed to see until it was nearly too late that the market charged to having an auto as a neccessity and "better" cars were the luxury people wanted.
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WOW, all of that just for a simple answer about GM and Opel.
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I don't think that's ever been questioned. Its just that many folks think Ford is the only US auto company with the Nazi connection.
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I don't think that's ever been questioned. Its just that many folks think Ford is the only US auto company with the Nazi connection.
Within weeks after the peace treaty ending the war with Japan was signed (9/02/1945 aboard the USS Missouri), executives from Ford & GM traveled to Germany to assess their assembly plant conditions.
Ford's Cologne, Germany assembly plant was a heap of rubble, as was most of the rest of Cologne including the world famous cathedral.
GM's Opel assembly plants in Russelsheim & Brandenburg didn't fare much better.
The war in Europe ended May 8, 1945 (VE-Day), but it was not safe to travel until Japan capitulated on August 15, 1945 (VJ-Day).
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). My retirement goal at age 50 is to be involved in mentorship programs for young folks and not necessarily the brainy. Drive and the desire to learn, in my experience, gets people further in life than mere smarts. Henry Ford and other extremely successful people have offered good advice on the subject: it is not neccesarry to know everything, it is more useful to focus on what you are doing and have others available to answer the questions you don't know.
I'm curious.....?
