new bronco?

[tseekins]

Originally Posted by Cdy1 dunno if its true buti think thats one ungly ass truck =/, might grow on me but idk. i like my 95 This truck is fantastic looking! I want a retro styled squarebody with a 4.6L 3v, 3.73's and a/c. Originally Posted by rockstate45 i know imma get flamed for sayin' this but I wanna see Ford build a FULL size off-road rig to the likes that'll put Jeeps and FJ cruisers to shame. One iwth a solid front axle. The works. Stock All terrains in 33's or 35s. Something completely badass. 2 door with removable top, just like the 90s. Oh, and gotta have the solid front axle or I would have to think long andd hard before i bought it lol -rockstate You ain't gonna get flamed dude, your not alone here in that line of thinking. Many of us here are old enough to remember the glory days of the old bronco, IH Scout, Jeep CJ's and we witnessed what they all evolved into..... Originally Posted by brooklyn born i agree with you, but do you think there will be enough bronco buyers to put a dent in the problem? what about chevy? will a new Camaro help them or a new Challenger for Dodge help? they are Niche vehicles attractive to certain poeple. they need to concentrate on a vehicle such as GM's Volt or a larger Hybrid other than the Escape You build it off of a common chassis like the 80's and 90's broncos and your in business. IMO, the only difference it would require would be solid axles, manual hubs and not as well equipped. It looks as thought the Toy FJ maybe a gonner. There doesn't seem to be any mention of it in the 2010 line-up. That could be bad for our cause. Tim

[wendell borror]

The real target for the bronco was the jeep wrangler, not yoda or even so much the hummer, all though the H-3 was becomming a player. The bronco was going after the wrangler, as the bronco will also have a removable top, hose out flooring and solid axles front and rear like the wrangler. The wrangler is the best selling jeep and a bright spot in chryslers dismal lineup. The jeep wrangler has a long heritage and a large fan base of faithful followers. Having jeeps as my hobby, I belong to several jeep forums. I know there's a lot of the jeep fans that aren't real happy with the direction chrysler has taken jeep. If you ask the jeep faithfull, whats the best 4wd's of all time and thier reply will be, the jeep CJ, early bronco's and scout. The bronco has alot of respect with the jeep crowd as well as lives in the hearts of the ford faithfull. If the new bronco is done right with some retro styling and hardcore equipment for real off roading, it could do really well in that nich market. With chrysler future uncertain and die hard jeep guy's becomming dissatisfied, the bronco could pull some customers. The mustang is a nich car, but look at the following it has. The new retro stang is off the hook and has really gathered in new mustang buyers, a new retro bronco could do the same. It allready has awesome name reconition and a long heritage with faithfull followers to capture another piece of market pie. You put enough nich vehicles together that sell well and they start adding up to a decent slice of market share. The bronco will share the F-100's plateform, so you get 2 vehicles for the price of one, the sorta thing ford needs to do to hold down production costs. So don't be afraid to e-mail ford and clammer for the bronco, so they know there truely is a market for a wrangler basher.

[BURNSTOUGHFORD]

I dont see why and offroad vehicle cant have independent suspension, you can get more flex out of it and it will have the ability to keep wheels on the ground better. Personally a suspension set up like an H1 would be ideal for off road i would think.

[rockstate45]

Damn and H1 suspension would cost a small fortune with the axles

Look at the FJ Cruiser, their front end is starting to crack bc of flexing. Stock bumpers, aftermarket, lift or no lift, it'll crack.

There's a 234 page thread on it lol. I'll dig up the link when I get home. I read like 35 pages and got bored of their bickering lol

-rockstate

[Red2003XLT]

I would vote for the early baby Bronco, definitely not the big boy.

However where does it fit in Ford Lineup? Escape, Explorer, Expedition? Who gets the axe?

[BURNSTOUGHFORD]

Poor engineering is why its cracking. That is irrelevant of the type of suspension. Also it wouldnt cost a heck of a lot more. We have cars that are 4wheel independent and obviously it would have to be much much stronger than that, but thats not necessarily going to cost exponentially more. H1's also have a counter gear in the wheel that allows the actual axle to the wheel be above the hub of the wheel. Im not going to try to explain it on here. but its an interesting way of doing things and it gains you ground clearance without the sacrifice of shaft angle.

[rockstate45]

burnstoughford, I'm familiar with how the H1 has their axles set up. That's why I said that it seemed like it'd be expensive.

Curious though, how do you lift one like that? Are the lifts more expensive or are the non-existant? I've never seen an H1 lifted.

I'm still in it for the big ol' Bronco! Those things are so badasss.

-rockstate

[BURNSTOUGHFORD]

Ya i wouldnt have a clue how to lift one. But the great thing about the H1 is that it provides more ground clearance than most lifted trucks. You would have to be running 38's probably to gain the same center ground clearance since the lowest point on a straight axle is the pumpkin.

Anyways, im not suggesting that it shouldnt have straight axles, it would be much cheaper, im wondering if ford would ever produce something like that again. Who knows, i didnt see the raptor coming either. BUT I WANT ONE!!!!!!! MUHAHAHA

[wendell borror]

The solid front and rear axle is the most durable steup and is perfered by wheelers, it's strong and easy to lift and can have massive side to side articulation. None of the current suv's would have to get the axe, the new bronco would be in a class of it's own, a nich vehicle like the mustang. I'ld say give it a suspension system like the 4x4 super duty, just smaller, that would make for one tough off roader.

[rockstate45]

Burnstoughford, what bout flex? In the H1 application there's no flex. I wonder if it's b/c the body is so rigid? You're right about the ground clearance - it's amazing the way that's set up. The H1 is on my dream list of cars that I'll never be able to afford haha.

Wendell, I like your idea..

Anybody remember that recreation of the 2 door Excursion a little while back?

-rockstate

[rockstate45]

It was somethin' similar to this but in some magazine



-rockstate

[BURNSTOUGHFORD]

I do remember the full size 2 door excursion that was basically a bronco. I would buy that... put the 6.2l in it and i would own it for sure, no questions asked. I will be buying a new pickup in the next couple years im sure.

[tseekins]

Originally Posted by wendell borror

The solid front and rear axle is the most durable steup and is perfered by wheelers, it's strong and easy to lift and can have massive side to side articulation. None of the current suv's would have to get the axe, the new bronco would be in a class of it's own, a nich vehicle like the mustang. I'ld say give it a suspension system like the 4x4 super duty, just smaller, that would make for one tough off roader.

Preach on my brother! That's what I'm talkin' about.

Tim

[wendell borror]

Yeah, I know the ifs on the H-1 is an awesome setup, but is also on the expensive side. The solid axles is a much more durable and cost effective setup that the common man can aford on a new bronco. The H-1 cost around 80,000.00$ when they were sold to the public. We can have solid axles and bash the heck out of it for 30 grand and lift it for 500 bucks. It's an old, but tried and true setup.

[Dr. Dirt]

well if the Bronco did ever come back Ford should style it just like the 78-79 Broncos. this is the same thing I said for the 2011 F100. style like the dentsides. Ford did this for the Mustangs, might as well do it for something that would sell great. I'm not at all for the body that the concept vehicle has. if Ford would put some D44's standard and D60's optional that would a beast. get a 300 I6 standard, 351W optional, or a 460 optional and that's your engines. with a C6 or E4OD, NP435, or a T18 the transmissions are picked. and last the t-cases.

I know that about 3 weeks ago we parked next to a H2 at Mickey-D's. stock the tires were 34.5" tall. so with a 2 inch lift you could run 38s but they might rub slightly.