I got my cluster for $20! and thats with the harness I cut out of the junk truck, if I didn't cut the wires I would of been $15. I might be heading back up there next month when the fresh stuff comes in and hope more are there.
Thanks Bill, but I finaly got the info when I got a deal on some Mitchell manuals, picked up about 50 of them from 1979 to 1999? or 2001? for domestic vehicles and imports! Got them all for $25. Wished the transmission manuals were there but the electrical manuals were worth it.
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89 F250 2x4 302/AOD 4.10 gears ,now on road.
89 Bronco2 with dead A4LD again
84 F250 4x4 300/np435 3.55 gears. The BLUE MULE shut down due to cab cancer(looking for good cab)
95 E350 bus conversion 460/E4od 4.10 the new toy!
85 Plymouth Caravelle 2.5L someday to get the hairdryer treatment(turbo)
93 explorer now just a woods buggy
yeah eddie, i have already done mine when i pulled the cluster apart to add indicator led's for all the extra functions going on in my van. just wondering about other folks. i've been turning wrenches for 35+ years and owned this van since '96 and it took me until last year to realize out what ford had done - never thought about it until i really looked at it on purpose...
The oil gage resistor is on the back of the insterment cluster's printed circut board. Its usually a 20ohm resistor (color coded:red black black gold) and its near by the oil gage it self inline with the sensor wire. Sometimes there is a lable calling it a 20ohm. just jumper it out with wire and get a sending unit for the older applications with gages. I have done this with all my later Fords and it works
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89 F250 2x4 302/AOD 4.10 gears ,now on road.
89 Bronco2 with dead A4LD again
84 F250 4x4 300/np435 3.55 gears. The BLUE MULE shut down due to cab cancer(looking for good cab)
95 E350 bus conversion 460/E4od 4.10 the new toy!
85 Plymouth Caravelle 2.5L someday to get the hairdryer treatment(turbo)
93 explorer now just a woods buggy
The oil gage resistor is on the back of the insterment cluster's printed circut board. Its usually a 20ohm resistor (color coded:red black black gold) and its near by the oil gage it self inline with the sensor wire. Sometimes there is a lable calling it a 20ohm. just jumper it out with wire and get a sending unit for the older applications with gages. I have done this with all my later Fords and it works
Thanks, I actually remember seeing it on my super duty when I was changing bulbs and wondering why it was there.
Guess that would also explain why the 4.6 in my 01' Mustang disassembled itself while telling me it had good oil pressure. Sure was glad it was under warrantee.
Can you remember what vehicle you got the sender for?
I recall , oil sending unit from 87 and older with gages should work. I think in 88 is when Ford did that stupid change over. On my setup with my 89 F250, I had to use the 87 dash,harness, engine/tranny as the the 89 was hacked up badly. So in one way I have a 89 chassis with 87 guts. All was bolt on swappable. The 89 cluster had the tach and 87 did not, simple swap, but I forgot about the oil gage resistor, so the gage always read low till I bypassed that 20ohm resistor, now fully working oil gage.
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89 F250 2x4 302/AOD 4.10 gears ,now on road.
89 Bronco2 with dead A4LD again
84 F250 4x4 300/np435 3.55 gears. The BLUE MULE shut down due to cab cancer(looking for good cab)
95 E350 bus conversion 460/E4od 4.10 the new toy!
85 Plymouth Caravelle 2.5L someday to get the hairdryer treatment(turbo)
93 explorer now just a woods buggy
I recall , oil sending unit from 87 and older with gages should work. I think in 88 is when Ford did that stupid change over. On my setup with my 89 F250, I had to use the 87 dash,harness, engine/tranny as the the 89 was hacked up badly. So in one way I have a 89 chassis with 87 guts. All was bolt on swappable. The 89 cluster had the tach and 87 did not, simple swap, but I forgot about the oil gage resistor, so the gage always read low till I bypassed that 20ohm resistor, now fully working oil gage.
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89 F250 2x4 302/AOD 4.10 gears ,now on road.
89 Bronco2 with dead A4LD again
84 F250 4x4 300/np435 3.55 gears. The BLUE MULE shut down due to cab cancer(looking for good cab)
95 E350 bus conversion 460/E4od 4.10 the new toy!
85 Plymouth Caravelle 2.5L someday to get the hairdryer treatment(turbo)
93 explorer now just a woods buggy
ohh, got to resize those pix! too big for my screen. You said you have a 92 van and have a 94 pickup cluster you want to install?
When I did my swap I did have the harness to the 94 cluster I cut from the JY, I just swapped over the wires on my 95 van to the correct color order for the 94 cluster.
IF you don't have the harness for the 92, I'll have to dig around for that info. Hopefully the color codeing will be the same bewteen the years as it was for me.
You will have to add a tach wire as the van's never had that option. Thats probly the most simple thing in the swap.
Ok, after resizing my screen, The photos are of the 92 van harness? I still have the 94 F-series harness with my old cluster and I can take some photos of the wiring so you can match up
what wires go where on your 92 van. I wished I took a photo of my van before I did the harness change over, that would of been helpful.
If you could, take a photo of the 94 cluster rear and the 92 cluster rear so I can compaire them?
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89 F250 2x4 302/AOD 4.10 gears ,now on road.
89 Bronco2 with dead A4LD again
84 F250 4x4 300/np435 3.55 gears. The BLUE MULE shut down due to cab cancer(looking for good cab)
95 E350 bus conversion 460/E4od 4.10 the new toy!
85 Plymouth Caravelle 2.5L someday to get the hairdryer treatment(turbo)
93 explorer now just a woods buggy
the next 4 are the ´94 wirring and must be the thread in this matter ? or ...?
it has colours that arent in the ´92
then 1 pict to where the small print sits ... whats the purpous of that print ?
and a pict of the number of the cluster ...
Thanks in advance
Sincerly
JCBX
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Originally Posted by Eddiec1564
ohh, got to resize those pix! too big for my screen. You said you have a 92 van and have a 94 pickup cluster you want to install?
When I did my swap I did have the harness to the 94 cluster I cut from the JY, I just swapped over the wires on my 95 van to the correct color order for the 94 cluster.
IF you don't have the harness for the 92, I'll have to dig around for that info. Hopefully the color codeing will be the same bewteen the years as it was for me.
You will have to add a tach wire as the van's never had that option. Thats probly the most simple thing in the swap.
Ok, after resizing my screen, The photos are of the 92 van harness? I still have the 94 F-series harness with my old cluster and I can take some photos of the wiring so you can match up
what wires go where on your 92 van. I wished I took a photo of my van before I did the harness change over, that would of been helpful.
If you could, take a photo of the 94 cluster rear and the 92 cluster rear so I can compaire them?
What I did was match the van's harness wires to the F-series cluster. You see inside the connectors there is a red keeper, pull that out and you will be able to press a small locking pin on the wire connector itself and it will pull of the big connector.
Yep you will be moving a few wires around and some on the 94 will not be used at all(mostly the 4x4 indicators and few others. As long as your color codes are the same bewteen the years you should have no problems. Ah, whats the engine of your van? I'm going to dig up the wiring diagram for the 92 van for you.
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89 F250 2x4 302/AOD 4.10 gears ,now on road.
89 Bronco2 with dead A4LD again
84 F250 4x4 300/np435 3.55 gears. The BLUE MULE shut down due to cab cancer(looking for good cab)
95 E350 bus conversion 460/E4od 4.10 the new toy!
85 Plymouth Caravelle 2.5L someday to get the hairdryer treatment(turbo)
93 explorer now just a woods buggy
Ok, got the wiring info for you. the first batch of schematics/connectors are for the 92 E-series van
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89 F250 2x4 302/AOD 4.10 gears ,now on road.
89 Bronco2 with dead A4LD again
84 F250 4x4 300/np435 3.55 gears. The BLUE MULE shut down due to cab cancer(looking for good cab)
95 E350 bus conversion 460/E4od 4.10 the new toy!
85 Plymouth Caravelle 2.5L someday to get the hairdryer treatment(turbo)
93 explorer now just a woods buggy
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89 F250 2x4 302/AOD 4.10 gears ,now on road.
89 Bronco2 with dead A4LD again
84 F250 4x4 300/np435 3.55 gears. The BLUE MULE shut down due to cab cancer(looking for good cab)
95 E350 bus conversion 460/E4od 4.10 the new toy!
85 Plymouth Caravelle 2.5L someday to get the hairdryer treatment(turbo)
93 explorer now just a woods buggy
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