What not to do with glycerine!
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What not to do with glycerine!
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Be sure to point that link out to the supporters of big oil...they'll love it. That don't care about $5 a gallon diesel or some foreign country having such a large influence of our economy. To get back to the subject at hand, it only takes a couple of bad apples to ruin it for the rest of us.
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As i mentioned...the site has other resources! I don't think the point of the thread is negative!
biodieselSMARTER - Composting: Solution?
biodieselSMARTER - Composting: Solution?
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As i mentioned...the site has other resources! I don't think the point of the thread is negative!
biodieselSMARTER - Composting: Solution?
biodieselSMARTER - Composting: Solution?
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I think the methanol should be removed before dumping the glycerin. I have read on biodiesel.infopop that some are applying demethed glycerin at a rate of 8 gallons/acre. The theory is that the potassium (K) in the glycerin is available to plants.
I have a friend that is using the glycerin to heat his oil and is having good results. If he stopped taking my glycerin, I think I would just set up a burner and burn it off. They take small galvanized pipe, heat it, and wrap it around a drive shaft (for a form). The nozzle is placed at the bottom of the coil so it heats the glycerin before it hits the nozzle and it can be pressured with a small pump or air compressor.
I have a friend that is using the glycerin to heat his oil and is having good results. If he stopped taking my glycerin, I think I would just set up a burner and burn it off. They take small galvanized pipe, heat it, and wrap it around a drive shaft (for a form). The nozzle is placed at the bottom of the coil so it heats the glycerin before it hits the nozzle and it can be pressured with a small pump or air compressor.
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Be sure to point that link out to the supporters of big oil...they'll love it. That don't care about $5 a gallon diesel or some foreign country having such a large influence of our economy. To get back to the subject at hand, it only takes a couple of bad apples to ruin it for the rest of us.
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I think the methanol should be removed before dumping the glycerin. I have read on biodiesel.infopop that some are applying demethed glycerin at a rate of 8 gallons/acre. The theory is that the potassium (K) in the glycerin is available to plants.
I have a friend that is using the glycerin to heat his oil and is having good results. If he stopped taking my glycerin, I think I would just set up a burner and burn it off. They take small galvanized pipe, heat it, and wrap it around a drive shaft (for a form). The nozzle is placed at the bottom of the coil so it heats the glycerin before it hits the nozzle and it can be pressured with a small pump or air compressor.
I have a friend that is using the glycerin to heat his oil and is having good results. If he stopped taking my glycerin, I think I would just set up a burner and burn it off. They take small galvanized pipe, heat it, and wrap it around a drive shaft (for a form). The nozzle is placed at the bottom of the coil so it heats the glycerin before it hits the nozzle and it can be pressured with a small pump or air compressor.
Burning glycerol is extremely dangerous when not done properly, and can cause an extremely PAINFULL death. This is the same stuff they called mustard gas in WWI! Glycerol MUST be burned above 1,800 deg F to be safe...........Please be careful.
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I'm just averaging it in to my total cost of production. If I generate 10-12 gallons of glycerin per 50 gallons of biodiesel, then it cost me roughly an additional $2 for that batch, or roughly 4-5 cents extra per gallon of diesel. Sure, it's an inconvenience, but I just collect it up in a 55 gallon drum over several batches and then take it in every few months.
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Same here. I've opted to not deal with trying to "clean up" my glycerin, and instead I'm taking on an additional disposal fee to take it to a local larger biodiesel facility where they will take it from me for 20 cents/gallon.
I'm just averaging it in to my total cost of production. If I generate 10-12 gallons of glycerin per 50 gallons of biodiesel, then it cost me roughly an additional $2 for that batch, or roughly 4-5 cents extra per gallon of diesel. Sure, it's an inconvenience, but I just collect it up in a 55 gallon drum over several batches and then take it in every few months.
I'm just averaging it in to my total cost of production. If I generate 10-12 gallons of glycerin per 50 gallons of biodiesel, then it cost me roughly an additional $2 for that batch, or roughly 4-5 cents extra per gallon of diesel. Sure, it's an inconvenience, but I just collect it up in a 55 gallon drum over several batches and then take it in every few months.
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I generate large amounts of glycerol, and have multiple methods of disposal. I use KOH so I'm able to mix it 50/50 with water and apply it to my alfalfa fields as a supplemental fertilizer. I also made arrangements with my county road dept to spray it on gravel roads as a dust suppressant. I also mix it at a 10% ratio and feed it to my cattle. Last year we used a 10% mixture with wheat straw, and pelleted it for cattle feed. We hoped to use it as heating pellets, but found that it burns so hot it destroys the burner chamber in a wood pellet stove. I'm looking for a corn stove to try again, because the burner chamber in a corn stove is made of heaver metal, and should be able to handle the extra heat. I did make a "babington" burner and successfully burned it for process heat, but I decided to use solar heat instead.
My next project is to use it for making ethanol.
My next project is to use it for making ethanol.
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I generate large amounts of glycerol, and have multiple methods of disposal. I use KOH so I'm able to mix it 50/50 with water and apply it to my alfalfa fields as a supplemental fertilizer. I also made arrangements with my county road dept to spray it on gravel roads as a dust suppressant. I also mix it at a 10% ratio and feed it to my cattle. Last year we used a 10% mixture with wheat straw, and pelleted it for cattle feed. We hoped to use it as heating pellets, but found that it burns so hot it destroys the burner chamber in a wood pellet stove. I'm looking for a corn stove to try again, because the burner chamber in a corn stove is made of heaver metal, and should be able to handle the extra heat. I did make a "babington" burner and successfully burned it for process heat, but I decided to use solar heat instead.
My next project is to use it for making ethanol.
My next project is to use it for making ethanol.
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So what you are saying Don is that as long as I remove all the methanol from the glycerin, I DO NOT have a problem with ground contamination? I have been dumping it into a parking lot drain (with the owner's permission) which drains out into a large retention pond. Any problem? Tom
Glycerol is a "sugary alcohol" and has the POTENTIAL to create an algae "bloom".
In any case, the Methanol MUST BE REMOVED FIRST! The Methanol is the real problem, as it's highly toxic.
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